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| pat young
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I ran into (not literally) a 1950 somethng Crwon, completely gutted, sitting alonside the road, appears to be abandoned. It has a Hall Scoot 590. the owner (local wreckng yard owner)didn't know much about it. any body good on the Hall Scotts? I took some pics of the motor too. Pat Young | ||
| Stan Rating: N/A |
Try this for a history of Hall Scott www.northern.edu/diasr/hallscott/history.htm | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
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I had a 1948 Brill IC-41 with a HALL-SCOTT. It had a 190-2. Laid horizontally under floor at approx middle of coach. Had dual ignition with twin coils. Single distributor cap with twelve plug wires and two coil wires, two sets of points/cond., and a dual contact rotor. 779 cu. inch 6 cyl.Good engine for it's time, although it is going to be difficult to obtain parts anymore. I've heard that crowns used to use them, although I don't know which model. I think parts are listed under WHITE engines now. | ||
| DMDave Rating: N/A |
Stan that was a nice link good job! | ||
| John Vickrey
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I can tell you ONE thing about a Hall Scott motor...... It will Peel the finger nail off the finger you put in the spark plug hole to see if it has compression...... Because there is another spark plug on the other side of the head and a rookie mechanic doesn't know that until it's too late.... The only wound I received in my short USAF career. John Vickrey St. Cloud, FL | ||
| pat young
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Howdy John What did the Air Force use Hall Scotts for? I'm an Army vet, and I think they were used a long time ago in some of our tracked vehicles. And for John Roam, did you mean 590-2, or is the number your gave (190-2) the correct one? Is that a horsepower rating? How are the Hall Scotts given names, by HP, cubiic inches., etc? I encounterd one in a fire truck yesterday at Kings Canyon Unified, an absolutley perfect show truck with an 1180 Hall Scott six cylinder according to the boss. It was so long we could only see part of it~! Happy bussin' Patrick Young | ||
| John Vickrey
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Patrick, They were in OSHKOSH snow plows and blowers. The RollOver snowplows had a cone shaped plow that would "roll over" and lay on either side, so the snow could be rolled left or right. The Blowers had 12 cylinder air cooled motors turning a blower that was taller than me. The blowers would actually chew up the bumper and about a foot of an MGB buried in the snow. Before it broke the shear pins. All I remember is they were Hall-Scott and they were BIG, TWO carburators and TWO distributers. I thing they would run on spit..... | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
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No, I meant a 190-2. I beleive the 590's were smaller....something like 477 cubes or so.I beleive the Brill engines were rated at 220 hp. | ||
| Henry R. Bergman, Jr. (Henryofcj)
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Stan...thanks again for the great link all about the Hall-Scott mills. Yeah, parts are now very hard to find. My old fire department began swapping out the gasser Hall-Scotts for 318 Detroits way back in the mid 1970's. Good luck finding good inexpensive parts today. However, consider repowering the bus. Go to www.crownbus.com for more and talk to Frank of Idaho. He IS the Crown repower guy! CROWNS FOREVER!! | ||
| Mark Russo
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Our fire district had a '57 crown pumper we picked up at auction from Los Angeles. It was a 900+ cid straight six hall-scott and I had the dubious honor of keeping it running. parts were very hard to find in 1985, I would hate to have to keep one running now. Henryofcj is right,unless you are restoring a museum piece a repower is the best move you can make. Also, for the sake of trivia, The Ralph J. Scott, LAFD fireboat #2 ran hall-scotts, I believe five in all. one set ran counter-clockwise to power one prop the other set clockwise for the other prop and one engine dedicated to pump duty. The prop engines could also be used for pumping. | ||
| Mark Russo
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I must correct my post, the outboard props on the fireboat were 12 cylinders, not two sixs. and the center six cylinder ran a center prop. My father was a fireman aboard boat #2 in the 40's and 50's and took me down to the engine room when I was a little boy. you can learn more here: http://www.lafire.com/fire_boats/Boat2.htm | ||
| Sojourner (Jjimage)
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Mark........thanks for very interesting history and still running LA #2 fire boat 80 years old strong! Thanks, Jerry | ||
| pat young
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RE: 318 parts I have a good source for Detroit parts, if anyone needs this, just drop me an email Patrick |
