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Eric Lake (Dc_bus_nut)

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Posted on Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 9:19 pm:   

I saw in a post/thread a while back that Wanderlodges have these type. Anyone have experience as to why they are better? Advantages/Disadvantages?

Thanks,

Eric
Marc Bourget

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Posted on Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 10:28 pm:   

FF is a big proponent of these windows.

Allows the air to enter while keeping out the rain.

No one makes a dual pane model, so heat loss is huge.
John MC9

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Posted on Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 11:26 pm:   

I believe they're called jalousie windows, and open with a
crank apparatus. They're nice also, because they're tough
to enter through, if you wanted to break in. Nice also,
because they can be open during a rain.. And also nice,
since they can be open a "crack", and yet have a full flow
of air from top to bottom!.

The downsides?

1. They aren't as nice to look through.
2. The mechanisms break and are a pain in thy rectum to replace.
3. When you leave during a rainstorm and truly believe the open
windows won't be a problem; on arrival, you find that there's
two inches of water on the floor, because the rain came at an
angle that wasn't expected during the engineering process...
4. Better make sure your clearances are correct, when you
drive through close quarters with the windows open.

I personally am planning on windows from:
Peninsula Glass
FAST FRED

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Posted on Sunday, January 08, 2006 - 6:21 am:   

The biggest advantage is the ability to ventilate with wide OPEN windows much of the time .

Remember sliders are half closed All the time.

In a warm place like Florida the ability to leave the windows open while in the rain , or when your'e out of the coach is great.

Many times folks retreat to air conditioned canned air when the temperature is just fine, just they dont like the rain blowing in from every brand of sliders.

"No one makes a dual pane model, so heat loss is huge."

Marc is correct that dual pane windows are not available , but it is basically meaningless.

Dual pane RV windows of any configuration are only 2 hunks of glass ,
NOT what a home owner purchases where the space between the glass is evacuated and filled with a less conductive gas, and perhaps heat reflective material.

So a regular hunk of glass has an R value of 3/4 , with about 2 inches of air gap the second hunk would bring the R all the way to 1 1/2 .

AS RV windows only have 1/2 or 3/4 inch of air gap the real value of "Dual Pane" windoes is closer to single pane.

Yes, dual pane block road noise better , but for insulation there hardly effective and quite expensive.

Most of the "gain" seems to be from replacing aged sliders in need of new seals.

I always recomend "Warm Shades" with a proven R value of 7 or 8 for folks concerned with heat loss or gain.

"I believe they're called jalousie windows,"

Jalousie windows are many many thin (3 or 4 inch) hunks of glass that all open together.

They have no frame around each glass section , so will rattle and may leak in a severe blow.

Awning windows have metal frames , seals and some can operate either pane independantly.

The greater depth of glass alows the ability to be left open (not WIDE) open in even heavy rain.

A great addition to any bus camper , particularly folks that aren't in love with yesterdays stale air.

FAST FRED
Nick

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Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 1:19 am:   

We have them on our MCI, and yes, ours are dual pane. Got them from Trina at RV Surplus in Elkhart. My wife ran a glass shop for 20 years and would have nothing less. We love em!

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