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Robert Swiatkiewicz (Bobswatz)

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Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 8:25 pm:   

Hi, does anyone know what type of plywood to use on the 4104 floors? Also where to get the special bolts to hold it in place?
I purchased pressure treated and had half of it cut then found out it should not be in contact with aluminum. I am glad I found out before I bolted it down.

Thanks,
Bobby
John MC9

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Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 9:27 pm:   

"I purchased pressure treated and had half of it cut then found
out it should not be in contact with aluminum"
.

Thanks! You just forced me to get a quick edukasion regarding
Pressure-Treated Wood
Jerry@nc

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Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 10:15 pm:   

You can put tar paper or plastic so that it will not touch the alum.
RJ Long (Rjlong)

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Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 11:52 pm:   

Bobby -

Call Luke, he's got the correct bolts for the floor, and will also have info on what type of plywood GM used originally.

1-888-262-2434 M-F between 9-5 Eastern.

Luke's a GREAT supporter of the busnut community, with over 40 years in the bus industry. Those of us on this board and others encourage you to support those who support us and our crazy little hobby.

HTH,

RJ
PD4106-2784
Fresno CA

PS: What's the VIN on your '04? (PD4104-XXXX)
Kevin Black (Kblackav8or)

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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 12:46 am:   

I would think some sort of barrier layer and then whatever plywood you prefer. Seems like a vapor barrier would make it better then new.
FAST FRED

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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 5:54 am:   

Stiffness counts so you might wish to look at a marine ply that has many more layers (stiffness) in similar thicknesses.

Brunzeel can be had with 7 plys in 18mm (3/4in)and is quite stiff.

About $150-$200 a sheet when you can find it ,

but this is part of the STRUCTURE of the coach , that's why the bolts are special too.

Figure folks will spend $3000 for shiney aluminum wheels that do NOTHING ,
don't be put off by the higher first cost.
Would you cheapout on brakes?



FAST FRED
Richard Bowyer (Drivingmisslazy)

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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 9:25 am:   

I am wondering if any type of pressure treated material should be used in a living area. I suspect it would be extremely difficult to totally isolate the sub floor from the living area.
Richard
Pete/RTS Daytona (Pete_rtsdaytona)

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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 9:44 am:   

Don't know what sizes you need for a 4104 but RTS floors are an odd size 5' x 5' mutliply plywood

if you go to --> http://www.woodfinder.com/search.php

type in baltic birch you will find a supplier of this extremmely rigid plywood - multi-multi-ply (IIRC - about 12 ply) that is used in furniture making - 5' x 5' is common in Europe - makes absolutely rigid floors - stronger than the original plywood in RTSs

BUT - you have to treat the under side - I use miss-mixed premium exterior paint from Lowes at a few bucks a gallon to protect the underside - I didn't care what color - I also painted the top side as added protection - If you look up under my bays you'll see a purple floor - looks cooool

runs about $40 - $50 a 5'x 5' sheet and

I also use the 1/2 Baltic Birch for my cabinets
Marc Bourget

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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 9:44 am:   

Pressure treated is intended to provide a chemical barrier for critters that live in the subsoil. It's not a particularly stronger form of wood.

I go with FF's suggestion of Marine plywood, although the premium flooring grades (7 ply, 3.4") might be ok, I defer to Luke. who spoke on this point at Bussin' 2003, (I think). IIRC, the wood is a shear plate that keeps things straight in back.

Onward and Upward
morgan Clough (Mclough777)

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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 12:06 pm:   

if i remeber correctly you dont want to put pressure treated in enclosed areas. something to do with the chemicals they are soaked in .i may be wrong but id check first before installing.
Bob Shafer (Michigander_bob)

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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 8:08 pm:   

I just did this on my 04. I can send you pictures and directions. Let me know.

Bob 4104-2346
Flint, Mi.
Robert Swiatkiewicz (Bobswatz)

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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 8:19 pm:   

Thanks everyone for the help. I contacted Luke at US coaches and he told me to use a good type of plywood. He also carries the fasteners for the floor. I have my work cut out for me!

Thanks,
Bobby

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