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Mike (Busone)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 12:08 am: | |
Thinking ahead a year or two I am looking at options for a bus barn/shop. I have been going over hiring somebody to frame a pole building and then I would attach the metal skin or building a stick frame building myself. Then I came across this other option socket systems. It looks like an excellent idea but looks can be deceiving. Anybody have any experience with these guys?
http://socketsystems.com/brochure.htm |
Ed Roelle (Ed_roelle)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 8:51 am: | |
Mike,
Check the building codes.
I am in the process of having our barn rebuilt. Building codes here have changed and toughened from when the barn was originally built 15 years ago.
Pole barn builders are very efficient. If it is a simple barn, it can be constructed very reasonably - and fast.
Ed Roelle
Flint, MI |
Dug
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 9:28 am: | |
I wouldn't do it down here in hurricane alley. When trusses are braced (from peak of one to bottom of next), it provides alot of strength.
If you don't have to worry about that kind of weather, then it may be a different story.
My .03....
Dug
75 MC8
Arcadia, Fl |
Jerry Liebler (Jerry_liebler)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 9:32 am: | |
Mike,
I built the pole barns on my farm in Oregon the 'conventional' way with treated poles set on concrete pads 5 feet under ground and trusses for the roof and 2x6 purlins and girts. I used 12 foot pole spacings and built a 60x 120 arena with 30x120 sheds on each side. I used a rented fork lift to set the huge trusses. The place I've moved to has a smaller barn built with the socket systems hardware.
If I were to build another barn, up to about 40 foot of span, I'd go with the socket sysems stuff.
Regards
Jerry 4107 1120 |
truthhunter@shaw.ca
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 1:01 pm: | |
Mike bus1, not to bad a version of post&beam structure. I would just buy the stock and weld my own "sockets" though and cut&weld the metal parts cost down to about 1/8 the price they want. Of course the big concern is the old "structural engineer certified" caveat that would come back to want one in the form of zoning, building permits, insurablitily and therefore added value to your property if you should decide to sell down the road. = If it ain't insurable, it ain't mortgageable (up here anyhow ) now that the lenders and insurers are allowed to be one and the same in the name of competitiveness motivated deregulation (ya right)of the cooperate laws. |
Pat (Proudeagle10)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 1:49 pm: | |
Mike Look at this site WWW.VERSATUBE.COM I am thinking of doing someing similar and I am using this company. Matter of fact, Lowes carries this name brand. This comes as a kit and you put it up your self.
AL |
Geoff (Geoff)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 7:34 pm: | |
I just looked at Versatube and the sizes are too small for a bus garage. I just got approval from the county to put up a 35'x 52' garage. I am going with a steel frame, but instead of steel siding I have to use OSB board and stucco to meet HOA requirements. I am going to put up the steel structure myself-- I bought a Genie TMZ 34/19 manlift to do the job. I am getting the building from:
www.absolutesteel.net
--Geoff
'82 RTS AZ |
Mike (Busone)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 1:45 am: | |
We are looking at moving to south east oklahoma so I am not worried about hurricanes. A tornado could be a problem though. Of course I doubt anything other than a concrete building could hold up to a twister. I don't need anything real big. I am thinking about 20x60.
truthhunter: I would weld my own, but as you mentioned I doubt the insurance would like me doing it myself.
Thanks everybody for your opinions. |
James Smith (Tomcat)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 12:07 pm: | |
I'm expecting the company to come and erect my 18wide X 42long X 15high steel building tomorrow. It's normally a carport, but I've opted to close in both sides and one end.
The reason I chose this system is the excellant cost, plus it comes installed.
I shopped the internet and couldn't find anything within $2k of this one.
Mine cost $4600 installed and anchored.
One like Mike Busone wants would cost $6974 from this same company. www.coast-to-coastcarports.com
Being concerned about the high winds I experience living on the Colorado high plains at 7000'msl, I poured nine, 12 inch diameter sono-tubes, 3 feet deep and put 2 anchor bolts in each, sticking out about 3 inches. Once they place the assembled 14ga steel frame between the bolts, a 1/4 steel strap goes over it to firmly hold the frame and building to the ground.
I'll have some pics in my bus photo album in a few days.
Jay
87 SaftLiner |
Mike (Busone)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 4:21 pm: | |
Thanks for the info James. I really like the price of those. Did you have to build the foundation? Please let me know how you like it and how the installation goes. |
Doug Dickinson (Dougd470)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 10:39 am: | |
My Experience
I bought a building from Morton Buildings (www.mortonbuildings.com) and had them assemble the entire building structure, siding, insulation (very important) and a 6 inch slab. I have a 53 X 54 building with electric openers on 2 roll-up doors, and all the amenities provided for (including plumbing rough-in for full bath). I paid $54K for all that. I added electric, heat, AC and the internal fitment and office walls, etc. I built it on a comercial property so I could sell it - hopefully at a profit in some future year. (land was extra) I have full utility access including natural gas for heat.
I went through all the variations, options, ideas, and so forth that I could think of and that made the most sense in my situation. Having someone else do the frame and my doing the fittment made things happen a lot faster than I could otherwise make it happen. I could bore you with all the what-ifs and whys that I entertained, but this made sense to me, given that I wanted to recover the investment in the building at some date - or use it for storage of the coach and having serious shop space to play. I don't have the option of doing this on my house property as one example.
My way
Doug
St Louis MC9 |