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Kevin Hatch
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 7:26 am: | |
The headlights on my 4905 are terrible! They are the old 24v seald beams. Is there any way to convert to some that will actually allow me to see where I'm going at night? |
CRANE
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 9:56 am: | |
Do you have the 4 headlight system???
Round or Square will not matter.
I would set it up with SYLVANIA SILVERSTARS. They are mentioned in the archive.
I think they might be available in 24 volt, if not, hook two 12vdc in series to run on 24vdc. Do this to both sets (all 4).
You will maintian the brites as well as the driving lites.
Put a switch on the second set low beam so if the normal low beam lights burn out, you can switch the back up low beams on.
May be a boon to have 4 low beams on when running the highway at night and you will have the next best thing to halide lamps.
Look it up, they cost about the same as normal driving lights.
try this site
http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProducts/AutomotiveLighting/HighPerformance/Silverstar
My friend bought Silverstars for his Grand Cherokee and the difference is very noticeable. Brighter, white light, more road to see, the light peirces further ahead than the OEM. The next best thing to expensive HID without the hassel.
Go for it
Crane |
Doug Wotring
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 9:56 am: | |
order the 12 V conversion Kit |
Kevin Hatch
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 10:15 am: | |
What's the 12v conversion involve? I have the 4 light (round) set up. If I did the 2 sets ov 12v lamps in series couldn't I just run 4 low beams and 4 high beams (aka 4 dual fillament bulbs) all of the time instead of wiring in a switch for the extras? |
CRANE
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 10:43 am: | |
---- In my opinion the dis-advantage of a roof raise like this is that no one can sit in a chair or couch and see anything outside except for the trees and sky.----
Yes, this is a possibility but you may have a lot of flasher as they will think the brites are on. |
CRANE
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 10:45 am: | |
Sorry, pls disregard previous entry
---- couldn't I just run 4 low beams and 4 high beams (aka 4 dual fillament bulbs) all of the time instead of wiring in a switch for the extras?
----
Yes, this is a possibility but you may have a lot of flasher as they will think the brites are on.
Sometimes my fingers are faster than my brain
Crane |
James Smith (Tomcat)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 11:54 am: | |
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/home.html
This guy knows more about vehicle lighting than anyone I've ever come across. If you don't find your answer on his page, shoot him a short email with your situation, and he will reply with the most practical solution.
Jay
87 SaftLiner |
doug wotring
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 12:25 pm: | |
call luke @ us coach |
Jack Conrad (Jackconrad)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 12:48 pm: | |
I run 4 High-Low 12 volt bulbs in our MC-8. 4 bulbs on low beam as well as 4 bulbs on high beam. When on low beam, the light is directed down towards the ground much closer than when the high beams are on. I also have the redundancy that if I burn out a low beam, I still have at least 1 low beam on each side. In approx. 10,000 miles, I have never had had anyone flash their ligfhts at me. Just my way, YMMV. Jack |
CRANE
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 1:02 pm: | |
I am trying to be neutral here, but I do like the SilverStar headlights.
Here is a link to feedback from the customers.
http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProducts/AutomotiveLighting/HighPerformance/Silverstar/Tes timonials/
Gotta love it.
Crane |
john w. roan (Chessie4905)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 12:26 am: | |
You can use the 12volt lights if you can get the resistor block some 4905's used. It plugs into the harness under the driver in the left front compartment. There is a plug/ socket assy there. |
Kevin Hatch
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 7:12 am: | |
Where would I find one of these resistor blocks? Sure would be nice to have more options with the 12v lamps! |
CRANE
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 9:01 am: | |
Question
Aren't those resistor blocks fitted for the OEM light resistance??? If so, were the OEM lights HALOGEN?
I don't believe the resistance will be the same so the voltage to the light filament will be different. Too high, will have early burn out. Too low, the light will be dim.
If someone can lend one of these units, then can hook up and attach the SilverStar (or whatever) light and measure the voltage across the lamp terminals.
I think best way is to get a dc regulator 24 to 12 (expensive) or just put 2 12v lights in series unless you know the resistor unit will work as designed.
Crane |
Tim Strommen (Tim_strommen)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 11:01 am: | |
The optics you use, have a lot to do with how the light the bulb makes gets used. I use and recommend Cibie headlights. They typically cost about $60 per fixture - but think of it as a safety device. How much is your night driving safety worth?
When I purchase Cibie Lights I get them from Aardvark International (Cibie USA).
I'd first recommend that you use them with regular 24 Volt halogen (H4/H1) bulbs - I think you'll be amazed at what can be done with good optics. Also it's a good idea to go over your headlight wiring and make sure that your wires, terminals, and grounds are not corroding (rusting wires make resistors = less power getting to your fixtures = dim lights).
If you're having trouble finding 24 Volt Halogens, try: "The Lighthouse Inc." It's where I get all of my bus related lighting and primary electrical material.
Finally, make sure your headlights are properly aimed. I do agree with James - Dan Stern is just about the most knowledgeable people when it comes to lighting technology - read his pages thoroughly (and believe him about cleaning your headlights regularly!).
Cheers!
-Tim Strommen |
FAST FRED
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 6:28 am: | |
Google "Light Force" for a good set of extra lights.
FAST FRED |
CRANE
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 8:52 am: | |
Well, if you are after just a peircing bright driving light, go get those aircraft lights.
They come in 12 and 24 volt dc.
Use aprox 10 amps per bulb, fit standard round auto fixture, though you will have to rotate the bulb 1/4 turn to get the correct horizon.
Use a 20 or 30 amp automobile lighting relay and tap off the starter HOT, not the battery positive. It makes a big difference for the battery charge as well as the bulb life.
There ain't not'n out there to match these lights.
Figure the planes come in to land a 100-200 mph, they need to see what they are landing on, (or going to have to avoid).
I have a pair of these, have had for years and I really like them.
SilverStars are the normal guys light after the aircraft lights.
NO, you cannot use the aircraft lights for drive lights., they are slightly illegal for that.
Isn't this stuff great? |
john w. roan (Chessie4905)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 10:41 pm: | |
Luke might be able to get you a resistor block off one of his used coaches or Dean's. |