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captain ron (Captain_ron)

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Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 1:16 pm:   

It seems they don't make a compact gas dryer so my only choice is electric. should I go with 110 or 220? and why? I only have 30 amp power at this time. I also need to be able to hook the dryer and air conditioners up so they can't be turned on when on the inverter. is there a simple way to do this?
CRANE

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Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 1:52 pm:   

you would run the inverter to a separate cb box that the ac/wash dry would not be on.

when on land or gen, a throwover would pick up that isolated cb box



240 has been out for rvs though there are some that use the gen when ever they need 240.

Not all parks have 240 connections, so that is a thought to consider.

Personally, Iv'e never used anything but 120 and never had a problem.

I thought it may be possible to get a dryer (used gas) and just add a 120v heater, maybe from a room heater, they already have the overheat cutoff built in them in the heating element.

It just needs to supply some heat, not a lot, to dry the clothes.

The air flow in itself (some machines have this feature) called No-Heat, drys in itself, the addition of a little heat just speeds up the process.

Crane
David (Davidinwilmnc)

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Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 6:01 pm:   

Ron, they do make compact gas dryers. They're made to mount under a counter or stack on a small front loading washer. Look at sears.com, lowes.com, or homedpot.com. I KNOW Sears and Lowes have 'em 'cause I've seen 'em. They're natural gas with lp conversion parts generally included.
R.C.Bishop

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Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 8:25 pm:   

Gas dryers dry faster.....:-) Ask my wife!

FWIW

RCB
captain ron (Captain_ron)

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Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 9:11 pm:   

Well I called sears and several other appliance places and each of them tell me nothing is available in gas in compact models. if you can prove them wrong it would make me happy
R.C.Bishop

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Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:02 pm:   

I just checked under "compact gas dryers" on the web...quite a few listed.

FWIT
RCB
Sojourner (Jjimage)

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Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:52 pm:   

Whenever I am not satisfied with saleperson...I always ask for thier manager the same question.

Because saleperson are only human...may not have correct information about whatever.

It work for me!

FWIW

Sojourn for Christ, Jerry
captain ron (Captain_ron)

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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 2:01 am:   

RCB, I did same and got lots of results in search engine but when you go to the site there are NO compact gas dryers. Jerry, I talked to the owner of a couple appliance stores and get the same answer. believe me I wish you guys could prove me wrong. I even called (out of desperation) a rv place and the dont have any small dryers available to them in gas.
t gojenola

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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 5:32 am:   

I have a Kenmore stackable compact 24" gas dryer (converted to propane) and a companion washer in my coach that I bought from Sears a few years ago. I had to special order the set, but its possible they are no longer made.



tg
FAST FRED

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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 6:19 am:   

Propane would be prefered , but if all you can get is electric , get a copy of the repair info (frequently on line) and take a look at the drier schematic.

A simple switch can be used to cut off one of the heating elements (usually 2 of 120V not 1 of 240v) and although slower the unit will work as advertised.

FAST FRED
David (Davidinwilmnc)

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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 8:49 am:   

Ron, I believe tg might have the units I was referring to. A friend has these in his kitchen. They are each 24" wide (like a dishwasher) and have countertop over them (again, like a dishwasher). I agree with FF that the propane would be the better way to go. I've always had a gas dryer at home and they're very economical.
captain ron (Captain_ron)

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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 10:11 am:   

TG?
David (Davidinwilmnc)

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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 11:24 am:   

Look two posts up from mine... the post signed tg
captain ron (Captain_ron)

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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 1:29 pm:   

Duh
captain ron (Captain_ron)

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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 1:42 pm:   

after calling several manufacturers I've come to the conclusion there are no gas compact dryers at least not free standing dryers. I stopped and talked to a fridgedair dealer on Fort Myers Beach and he said none are available from them. He has a Euro Vent compact dryer that he's had for quite some time (brand new) that I can have for cost which is $190.00 it is 220 and vented, he also told me to stay away from 110 volt units. so unless somthing comes up better or one of you guys miraculessly find a gas unit I guess I'll go with this one. It's new and it's relatively cheap.
RCBishop

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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 2:51 pm:   

Whirlpool LTG5243WH... 24 inch gas stack unit.

RCB
Richard Bowyer (Drivingmisslazy)

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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 3:50 pm:   

Whirlpool Stack Washer With Gas Thin Twin® Dryer, Model LTG5243WH

Key Features:

Compact Thin Twin® Dryer
Rotary Controls
Large Capacity
Available in White-on-White Styling
Washer:

Gentle Wash System - Whirlpool® washers set the standard in the laundry room! We build them with innovative features like the Gentle Wash System that uses step-down agitation speeds to maximize cleaning during the beginning of the wash and gentleness at the end.
Super Surgilator® Agitator - The Surgilator® Agitator creates a continuous rollover action that provides a thorough cleaning of the wash load.
5 Automatic Cycles
3 Water Levels
2 Wash/Spin Speeds
4 Wash/Rinse Temperatures
Spreckle Porcelain Basket
ToughTop II Top and Lid Finish
1/2 Horsepower Motor
Dryer:

Automatic Dry-Miser® Control - Dry-Miser® control takes the guesswork out of drying. Simply choose from less dry to very dry. The Automatic cycle senses exhaust air temperature and shuts the dryer off when the selected dryness is reached.
5 Cycles
4 Temperature Settings
End-of-Cycle Signal
Side-Swing Door
DuraWhite Interior
Easy to Clean Lint Filter
1/3 Horsepower Motor
Electrical Requirements:

120 volt, 60 Hz., AC; 15 or 20 amp 3-wire, single phase, separate circuit. A time delay fuse or circuit breaker is recommended. Unit is supplied with a 20 amp rated, flexible type, power supply cord.
Energy Index:

KWH per Year (Using FTC Method): 592

Estimated Annual Operating Cost:
When used with an electric water heater: $49
When used with a natural gas water heater: $23
Warranty Information:

Manufacturer Warranty (authorized online retailer):
Full One Year Warranty
4 Year Extended Service Warranty: Available- Click here for details
Dimensions:

Dryer Height: 27-5/8"
Washer Height: 32-1/2"
Max Height: 71-3/4"
Depth: 27-1/4"
Width: 23-7/8"
motorcoach1

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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 6:33 pm:   

I have a sears Kenmore portable heavy duty dryer 24 x 26 x about 32 high 120v at 15 amp with 4 dryer settings in my coach and it works great washer is the same Kenmore. the Whirlys pools had a much higher power rateing than what i was looking for. Jeans 4 with teeshirts takes about 35 minutes to dry throw in some socks and undies.
Stan

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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 8:31 pm:   

Do you have the Sears number for your dryer? My Sears home dryer (240 volt, 30 Amp) takes 45 -55 minutes to dry that many blue jeans. Maybe I can exchange it for the high efficiency model.
R.C.Bishop

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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 8:47 pm:   

Good show, Richard!!!.. I didn't have the time to devote to the details, but I am sure Ron....along with many others appreciate the xtra effort. A++++

:-)
RCB
niles steckbauer (Niles500)

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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 9:22 pm:   

Don't know why the difference - Whirpool has been manufacturing most of Sears Kenmore appliances for more than 15 years - FWIW
captain ron (Captain_ron)

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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 9:37 pm:   

Richard, Thanks for the deialed info. But the depth is too deep I need to stay 24 inches or less. I am going to find there web site and look farthe in to it
Marc Bourget

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Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 6:40 am:   

Cap'n,

Are you limited to a 24 x 24 footprint? or just 24" deep? Would modifying cabinetry so units are rotated 90 deg work?
captain ron (Captain_ron)

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Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 8:33 am:   

good idea mark, but ultimately would take up too much space because you have to leave room for door swing on both appliances. I think I'll just go with the electric one for now and mabee some day I'll find a gas version or they'll come out with one.
Richard Bowyer (Drivingmisslazy)

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Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 12:57 pm:   

Ron, My guess is that you will be extremely disappointed with a 120 volt dryer. Keep us advised after you get it installed.
Richard
Gary Carter

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Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 3:06 pm:   

I spent 3 years looking for a 24" wide gas dryer. The only unit available was the aforementioned whilpool combo. We were trying to get rid of a top loading combo and replace with a 24" front load washer and dryer.

In our 4106 we had a splendide 2000 which is the vented model and it worked well, expecially in the SW USA. In high humidity climates the 120 vac dryer was a little slow.

In our current coach we threw out the topload kenmore combo unit and installed a 240 VAC Bosch stackable washer and dryer.

What most folks that have never used a good front loader don't know is they spin the clothes so fast there is very little water left in them.
Tom Caffrey (Pvcces)

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Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 12:15 am:   

Ron, even if you're looking at a single element 240 volt electric heater in that dryer, there is a way to use it on 120 volts.

As far as I know, all electric dryers use 120 volt motors. Most take something like 20 amps of 240 volt power, around 5,000 watts, and can dry a load of clothes in an hour or so.

If the dryer is properly reconnected, the heater can be run on the same power as the motor; the power will be 1/4 of what it would be on 240 volts.

That means that the drying time will be 3 to 4 times as long for the same amount of water in the clothes, and the heater current will likely be around 10 amps.

This should mean that you can run the dryer on a 15 amp cord and plug, and the only change should be how long it takes to dry. If the available 120 volt shore power is only 30 amps, this should leave you with an option.

Be sure to have any reconnecting checked thoroughly because electric heating loads can generate a lot of heat in one spot if anything goes wrong.

Good luck with your solution to your dryer problem.

Tom Caffrey PD4106-2576
Suncatcher
Ketchikan, Alaska

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