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| Gary Stadler (Boogiethecat)
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In doing some driveline changes, I'm going to be forced into using a couple of Spicer 5-801X U-joints, which have bearings & cups that are smaller than the original ones on the bus. I've been all over the internet trying to find the torque ratings for these and can't find a thing... Anyone know, or know where I can dig up the info? Spicer's site seems useless... | ||
| John MC9 Rating: N/A |
"In doing some driveline changes, I'm going to be forced into using a couple of Spicer 5-801X U-joints, which have bearings & cups that are smaller than the original ones on the bus. " UGH... That aside... What markings does the Spicer bolt have? That would give you the torque rating for the bolt... That's all you'll need to use it. Bolt and Torque Specs | ||
| Gary Stadler (Boogiethecat)
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Um... I'm looking for the amount of engine torque that the 5-801X U-joint can handle, not the bolt torques. Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear enough. I'm just wanting to assure myself that I won't be coming off red lights with my driveshaft rolling clankety-clankety into the curb ! (I've actually seen it happen!! ) | ||
| John MC9 Rating: N/A |
Gary.. If the question still doesn't get answered (I don't have it), you might want to compare the application of each. That is, what type vehicle and load was the 5-801X U-joint used for, versus your original. That should put you closer to the answer, ehh? | ||
| dick egler (Dickegler)
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Hi Gary, The chart available at the posted link might help. http://www.hardyspicer.com.au/viewdocument.asp?TableName=tblProductVariations&FieldName=fl dProductVariationID&FieldValue=2948 My eagle used the 1710 series spicer. I had trouble finding the series of the 5-801x, but suspect it is in the 1410 series. By the information in the chart, it would seem too light for an eagle application. However for a Crown? I dont know your engine but the chart says 250 to 375 ft lbs. Dick | ||
| Gary Stadler (Boogiethecat)
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That was what I was looking for Dick! It is a 1410 and I think it's going to be woefully under-rated for my rig, but I kinda have no choice. The 5.9 cummins I have will do about 450ft pounds, and a standard 1410 is rated at only 250 continuous. But a 1410 is rated at 374 for industrial and 1500 intermittent, and the 5-801 is an upgraded version... So I'll carry a spare or two and I guess I'll see what happens! ... THANKS Gary | ||
| truthhunter@shaw.ca Rating: N/A |
Maybe add a drive shaft guard to catch it during a break away, might prevent serious damage to the you and the vehicle behind you. | ||
| Phil Dumpster2 Rating: N/A |
Don't use engine torque ratings alone to size U joints for the driveline! There are several factors that figure into driveline torque. While your engine may put out 450 foot-lbs, the driveline system must be built to handle several times that much torque. | ||
| Kyle Brandt (Kyle4501)
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Another thought, your drive line sees engine torque only in high gear (assuming no losses in the transmission). When in a lower gear, the torque seen by the driveline increases by the gear ratio in the transmission. The 5-801 will work, the question is for how long & how much abuse it will tolerate. The drive shaft catch guard is a good idea. When we design a drive shaft system at work, we put an offset (about a 5 degeree angle at the joint) in the drive line so the needle bearings will have some rolling movement. If not, the needles 'wiggle' in the same spot & the joint fails early. Don't forget to phase the u-joints correctly or they won't last long either. Good luck with your project! kyle4501 |
