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JW Smythe (Jwsmythe)

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Posted on Saturday, May 27, 2006 - 3:39 pm:   

I thought you guys may get a kick out of this.

http://joecellhydra.com/

What you do is make this thing with concentric stainless steel tubes, hook it up to your engine in some vauge sort of fashion, and put some specially energized water in it. Now you can run any vehicle without using fuel.

I told my girlfriend about it. She mentioned Hyde on "That 70's Show". "There's this guy who made a car that runs on water...."

This guy claims he's put it on about 30 vehicles, that work perfectly on it. That makes it sound promising, doesn't it?

There is a good size community making their own Joe Cells, so it's not just one mystery developer. There are a whole bunch of videos of various stages of construction, and a couple showing it working. It must be real, right? :-)

So, in their Yahoo group, someone asked the question, "How many of you have it working."

That seems to have brought up a sore point. They got responses saying there are a lot of them working, but when the issue is pushed asking "which one of YOU have one working", no one could answer that they do.

There's a seminar in July on it. The guy who claims the 30 installations is to build a sample at the seminar, install it on a vehicle, and show that it works.

It seems he can't get his sample working for some reason.

(Hold the snickering down in the back!)

So, there are books on the subject. You can buy parts to build one, but there are instructions online of what to you need, so you can go get the parts yourself.

If anyone is feeling ambitious, I'd love to hear that you got one working. I'm not going to waste the time on it. One guy said that he built several trying to make them work, without success. Obviously he was doing something wrong, but he'll keep trying. I think I know what's wrong.

Ok, go ahead and start laughing now.
JW Smythe (Jwsmythe)

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Posted on Saturday, May 27, 2006 - 3:52 pm:   

http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Joe_Cell:Validation

Oops, I was wrong, he claims 80 installs.

The "New Energy Congress" (NEC) wants to validate the claim. The above link outlines his excuses.

I'm still open minded though. It's just hard for me to believe that he's done 80 installs, and can't make one available for demonstration. Hell, if I had one installed on my car, and someone wanted to see it, I'd drive it anywhere, pop the hood open, and show it off.
Stan

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Posted on Saturday, May 27, 2006 - 5:43 pm:   

I haven't got the time to read all the links on the Joe Cell but I think this quote explains everything we need to know about it:

"According to Stevens, the idea is to form a polarity on each cylinder, so that they are positive on the outside and negative on the inside at the lowest point. Some cells that leak or lose charge can be remedied and be maintained by a 1.5-volt battery, which is not drained in the process. It just serves as a potential (polarity) reference. Adding to the apparent quirkiness of the technology, Stevens has noted that this booster charge seems to be dependent on lunar cycles, and is not necessary during some moon phases. However, the comeback is that this is not quirkiness, but further evidence for the Electric Cosmos concept, in which all planets, moons, comets and stars are recognized as interacting electrically."
JW Smythe (Jwsmythe)

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Posted on Saturday, May 27, 2006 - 8:42 pm:   

The last two sentences pretty much summarize it. :-)

There was a quote in there somewhere, that indicated a human standing by added to the force. I'm thinking if you got a bunch of nuts in a circle chanting around your vehicle, it'd go even faster. :-)

I suspect, if it does work (I'm trying to remain optimistic), they may have a few mistaken assumptions on the whole matter.
Ken Wildman

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Posted on Saturday, May 27, 2006 - 8:55 pm:   

You can drill down and find some videos. The audio is gobbledy-gook. :-) They seem to claim that you can maintain different polarities on the inside and outside of a steel tube.... !!
DMDave

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Posted on Saturday, May 27, 2006 - 10:41 pm:   

I read a heading about mirrors but not the one titled smoke.
Ross Carlisle (Rrc62)

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Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 5:32 pm:   

There was also the comment about it somehow changing the weather. If it is a gag, they sure put alot of effort into the web documentation. There is even a guy selling kits.
motorcoach1

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Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 3:35 pm:   

why is it we make fun of what we don't understand ...gee can i get it at wall Mart ...ge sure if the gov allows it mmmmmm
JW Smythe (Jwsmythe)

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Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 2:52 am:   

I make fun of it, because it's a hoax. :-)

I started out optimistic.

Then I became excited.

Then I read everything I could get my hands on.

Power from the ether realms (or whatever)? Could be. A grounding from a plain of existance we don't understand? Sure. What was static electricity before we really started to understand it? Some mystery force.

I run a news site too. It's my biggest hobby, even though it should be a business.

There's a seminar soon, and the biggest guy in it can't get his sample working for review, even though he claims to have installed 80 of them. The optimism starts to drop.

Reviewing some other mailing lists, plenty of people have something resembling success, but none have anything that actually works. The people working on it were very defensive about that, but the truth still stands, none of them have a working product.

I'll probably still show up the seminar in July. I'll bring the digital video and still cameras along. If it works, it's a big news story, and I want to cover it. As it may turn out, it'll be a couple days away from home.

But, lets put it this way. If it does work, I'm sure as hell going into business selling these things installed.

I'm not clearing any time in my schedule quite yet.
motorcoach1

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Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 10:43 pm:   

I thought the Saborie Papp engine looked real interesting ,on that site

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