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Bud Matthews
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Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 1:52 pm:   

Is repowering with a 6v92ta and keeping the spicer 4spd a good option?
Are there lots of things that have to be changed?
I know I'll have to change the radiator.
I like the 4 spd fine I just would like to get hill climbing power.
Appreciate anyones thoughts on the subject - Thanks
Bud
RJ Long (Rjlong)
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Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 1:06 am:   

Bud -

The real problem (besides heat) is torque.

Look at your drivetrain in the 4104. It's Engine - Clutch - Transmission - Bevel Gears - Driveshaft - Rear Axle.

When GMC was doing development work on the 8V71-powered V-drives, they kept blowing out the bevel gears, due to the higher torque output of the V-8 over the six. That's why they moved the bevels on the later model coaches, both sticks and autos.

"New Look" transits and 4106s changed the stick drivetrain to: Engine - Clutch - Bevel Gears - Transmission - Driveshaft - Rear axle. In the automatic transits, the drive layout is: Engine - Bevel Gears - Torque Converter - Transmission - Driveshaft - Rear Axle.

And, as has been mentioned elsewhere, this drivetrain layout change necessitated changing the pumpkin location on the rear axle - later models have it located on the curbside of the coach centerline.

Not to say it can't be done, all it takes is $$$ :-)

OTOH, if you put a turbocharger on the 6-71, that would put you at about the same output as a stock 4106's 8V71, or roughly 275 hp. You still run the risk of the torque output overpowering the bevels, however, primarily in the lower gears.

HTH. . .
Bob Ayers (Califbob)
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Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 1:45 am:   

I have a turboed 671 ,4 valve head and all the latest stuff to up date a 671. Tons of power. It's got about 60k miles on it It's hooked upto a reuilt trans and diff. I'll sell it to you including the intire most beautifull 04 you have everseen for 20k

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