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james kennedy (Molases)
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Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 10:41 pm:   

Is there any information on the soon to be introduced diesel fuel. What effect will it have one 2 cycles engines and those not able to run on low sulpher. What about the older 4stoke engines ?.
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Bill Glenn (Homegrowndiesel)
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Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 11:12 pm:   

There should be no problems with the ultra low sulphur diesel(ulsd) <15 ppm. This became law on this past sunday. Stations must have ulsd available. I wonder how many stations will have low sulphur diesel available also <500ppm.
JC Alacoque (Jc_alacoque)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 12:13 am:   

From what I have gathered from oil company web sites and various articles I have read, ULSD should not be a concern for any engine, old or new. They are putting lubricity additives into it at the refinery to compensate for the lack of sulphur. If I was an oil company, I would not want to be liable for thousands of failed fuel pumps and injectors. It is only the new '07 and later engines that will run on ULSD only. So don't wory about your older motors.
Brian Elfert (Belfert)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 9:02 am:   

Refineries have been producing ULSD since around June 1st. The Oct 15th due date at the pump gave everyone time to get all the old fuel out of the system. It is very likely you already have fuel with reduced sulphur in your tank.

The local station I buy fuel still has the stickers saying not legal for 2007 engines, but I am almost certain it is ULSD since they only have one pump and a pretty high volume on that pump.

Brian Elfert
Buswarrior (Buswarrior)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 2:14 pm:   

Ditto.

Ultra Low Sulfer Diesel is already at your pump, having been flushing through the system since earlier in the year.

ULSD is required in the same way that no-lead gasoline came along.... emmision control devices in the exhaust.

Don't confuse "Low Sulfer Diesel" with "Ultra Low Sulfer Diesel" We have been burning LSD, 500 parts per million of sulfer, for some years now. ULSD is the new, less than 15 parts per million of sulfer.

For gasoline, it is for the catalytic converter, lead being a killer of the catalyst that helps clean up the pollution.

For Diesel, the sulfer will prematurely clog the diesel particulate filter, a device that will replace the muffler on 2007 and onward engines. The DPF will catch and burn the diesel soot, and require cleaning periodically. If higher sulfer content fuel is run through a DPF, it will clog up many tens of thousands of miles early.

Depending on manufacturer, the DPF will need cleaning anywhere from 150 000 miles to 450 000 miles. No one is sure, depending on duty cycle....

Be thankful for our old 2-strokes, the highway is getting to be a complicated and expensive place to earn an income, or for recreation!

Online articles in the trucking industry journal of your choice.

happy coaching!
buswarrior
FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 5:59 am:   

Here in the NE US the air is now cleaner coming out of the exhaust than going in the intake.

FAST FRED
Al Butler (Abajaba)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 9:52 pm:   

So the diesel engine is now an active reciprocating combustion powered air filter? :-)

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