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| T. (Bluegrass)
Registered Member Username: Bluegrass Post Number: 216 Registered: 4-2002 Posted From: 72.160.135.170 Rating: N/A |
How to run fuel lines on Eagle Model 10 coach for the generator I guess what I really need to ask Is where you would hook up the lines from the generator | ||
| Bob greenwood (Bob_greenwood)
Registered Member Username: Bob_greenwood Post Number: 354 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 4.226.108.215 Rating: N/A |
always a big arguement starts,everybody has their own Idea...I would prefer a separate tank,one of those from behind the seat in a pickup,when you remove it,get the straps too & mount it against the bulkhead with the filler pointing out. | ||
| H3-40 (Ace)
Registered Member Username: Ace Post Number: 347 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 70.202.251.129 Rating: N/A |
Yea I would agree with what Bob said only the p/u tank is kind of un-sightly as there many other tank options out there! By using a seperate tank, you never use the bus fuel and can never catch yourself running out or using more than you want because of the use of the generator. Also with a seperate tank, in SOME places, you can buy off road fuel at cheaper rates! Ace | ||
| Richard Bowyer (Drivingmisslazy)
Registered Member Username: Drivingmisslazy Post Number: 1741 Registered: 1-2001 Posted From: 75.108.82.163 Rating: N/A |
I put a T in the line from the fuel tank and hooked up my genset and Webasto to that and operated for 15 years without any problems. You do have to keep a close watch on fuel level, and do not do this if you do not have an accurate fuel guage. The preferred method is to install a second pickup on the main tank with it only going about three fourths of the way to the bottom so that you can not run the main tank dry with the genset or Webasto. With 150 gallons or more capacity in the main tank I have never been able to understand why anyone would install a second tank unless they planned on spending the majority of their time boondocking and planned on using off road fuel to try and save a little money. Richard | ||
| H3-40 (Ace)
Registered Member Username: Ace Post Number: 348 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 70.202.251.129 Rating: N/A |
Richard, not to dispute what your saying but how would you ever get an accurate mileage if you run your generator while travelling? Also how many TRUE fuel gauges have you ever seen HONESTLY, and you would still trust it? Only true thing about knowing how much fuel you have when you combine the two is knowing when the generator runs out, then you only have THAT much left IN the main tank to run your bus on and that's without a generator for things like fridge, a/c's, lights! I know, I know, you'd say what about the inverter? True, but not everyone has one and they depend on the generator! FWIW of course! Ace | ||
| Mike Eades (Mike4905)
Registered Member Username: Mike4905 Post Number: 126 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 68.207.200.143 Rating: N/A |
I have a second tank off a dump truck, Holds fifty gallons. My 8kw wirco will run for a week of 24-7. Never had a problem with and I am almost all electric. Mike | ||
| sassbg (Eagleone)
Registered Member Username: Eagleone Post Number: 49 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 24.255.245.40 Rating: N/A |
I have two fuel gauges.if you have a big bus dont ck. the mileage .you want feel bad .and you can say it get`s 40 m p g. | ||
| Richard Bowyer (Drivingmisslazy)
Registered Member Username: Drivingmisslazy Post Number: 1743 Registered: 1-2001 Posted From: 75.108.82.163 Rating: N/A |
Ace, I really never worried much about actual MPG of the coach only. I sometimes checked the overall mileage on a cross country trip and it was generally in the 6-6.5 mpg. Generally however, I never actually took the time to calculate it. Was nothing I could do about it so why worry? I believe the tanks on DML was around 180 gallons. The most I ever put in was around 150 but that was after a long drive. I always felt safe as long as I never exceeded 800 miles in a day. My best estimate was that I could go around 1200 miles before running empty. I almost always run the genset day and night when I traveled. I always filled up each night when I stopped for dinner at Flying J generally. I did have the fuel guage stick a couple of times but since I religiously filled up each night, I never worried. Richard BTW, I made many cross country trips from my office in Pasadena to my office in Fort Lauderdale. | ||
| RJ Long (Rjlong)
Registered Member Username: Rjlong Post Number: 1111 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 67.181.163.170 Rating: N/A |
T - Don't know if you want to add a second tank, but here's an idea a fellow CA busnut did with his GMC: He mounted an additional 50 gallon tank in the old HVAC compartment for the genset, adjacent to the main tank, with the top of the new tank about 2" higher than the main. He then took the return fuel line from the engine, and plumbed it into this tank thru a tee, using a reducer bushing to bias the flow to the main tank. Thus, the return line from the engine fills the aux tank while running. About 1" down from the top of the tank, he installed an overflow line that bled off the excess fuel from the aux tank back over into the main tank. This line is slightly larger than the feed line, so there's little to no restriction in the flow (which is also set up "downhill"). As you can see, the aux tank always stays full, until he runs the genset. Firing up the coach engine automatically refills the aux tank. One other thing he did was to install an additional fuel pick-up and small electric fuel pump on the aux tank, in case he was ever in a situation where the main tank level dropped to the point the engine wouldn't run. Then the electric fuel pump could refill the main tank. He also had a shut off valve on the aux tank feed line, again to keep the return fuel returning to the main tank if necessary. He never had to use the electric pump, because he had a firm rule of not running more than 600 miles without fueling. (Coach could run nearly 1200 miles on the main tank.) Oh, and the aux tank was vented, too. Tied into the venting on the main tank. This is one of the most clever genset fuel tank setups I've seen. Only one filler nozzle required, aux tank's self-filling, doesn't interfere with the main fuel supply's suction side, provides a back-up in case of running low on fuel. Very smart. FWIW & HTH. . .  | ||
| Richard Bowyer (Drivingmisslazy)
Registered Member Username: Drivingmisslazy Post Number: 1746 Registered: 1-2001 Posted From: 75.108.82.163 Rating: N/A |
The main disadvantage I see to this is when I was at home in WV I used to run the Webasto at low temperature to keep the coach from sweating during cold weather. I think I would want valves on the electric pump plumbing so that the auxiliary tank could be filled from the main tank. Much easier in the long run to just install a second pickup in the main tank I think. Richard | ||
| David Hartley (Drdave)
Registered Member Username: Drdave Post Number: 707 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 67.78.176.54 Rating: N/A |
Oh.. Boo Boo... Gas tanks have not been inside the cabs of pickup trucks for a very long time. Say the early 70's if that late. As for plumbing an extra line, I drilled into the main tank and JB welded a feed and return line in with the pickup line 12 inches up from the bottom of the tank. That way I have over 75 gallons left after the generator runs out of fuel. I did it that way because if for some strange reason you are not parked level the fuel will run to the side of the tank and possibly away from the main pickup for the engine if you get down to less than 50 gallons. Don't ask me how I know that...... A separate tank is nice and I have installed an auxillary 100 gallon transfer tank in my front bay which will feed the generator and be a reserve for the main tank with a transfer pump. Dave.... | ||
| Jim & Linda Callaghan (Jimc)
Registered Member Username: Jimc Post Number: 23 Registered: 2-2004 Posted From: 66.175.206.189 Rating: N/A |
RJ I really like that set up, if my second tank was not already plumbed up, I would copy that system. Jim Callaghan 4106 Wisconsin | ||
| Bill Glenn (Homegrowndiesel)
Registered Member Username: Homegrowndiesel Post Number: 15 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 71.242.149.235 Rating: N/A |
On our eagle there was a plug in the top of the curbside tank. Installed a 1/2" tee in the tank hole, so one end was up, and one off to the side. installed an 1/2" M.P.T to 3/8" copper compression adapter in the top hole, dropped the 3/8" copper supply tube in 7" short of the bottom of tank. So as not to have generator drain the tank. Installed the return line in the side of the tee. Works great. Slip the Nipple, Tee, and Adapter on the copper tube, and bend the tube slightly so as to be able to clear the floor when inserting in tank. then thread the close nipple, tee, and adapter together, before tightening the ferrule. Hope this helps Bill | ||
| H3-40 (Ace)
Registered Member Username: Ace Post Number: 352 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 75.200.211.229 Rating: N/A |
Bill, off topic, Susan and I want to thank you and your wife for the loaf of Scrapple. Needless to say it was very good and is very gone! My dad who is in a nursing home appreciated it as well! Again... thanks much! Ace |