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John Harrelson (Jharl)
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Username: Jharl
Post Number: 16
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 72.71.226.120
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 8:51 pm: | |
hi I have an eagle 01 with a 8v71, had it running the other day and now no go no fuel. I found that I had taken a fuel pump out that runs the genset. I have since closed the line but do not know enugh to prime the engine. I noticed that the line going to the genset taps in before the two filters and is above them. |
Bob greenwood (Bob_greenwood)
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Username: Bob_greenwood
Post Number: 396
Registered: 7-2006
Posted From: 4.90.3.132
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 9:28 pm: | |
one simple way...that you can also use in the future,put a 12 volt electrc pump close to the fuel tank,with an on/off switch,advance auto parts has one for about 30.00 |
John Harrelson (Jharl)
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Username: Jharl
Post Number: 19
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 72.71.219.249
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 04, 2006 - 3:17 pm: | |
Thanks, but this sitll does not help. I need to do the basics. Is the engine self bleeding, do I need to fill the filters up? are there any other steps? |
Richard Bowyer (Drivingmisslazy)
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Username: Drivingmisslazy
Post Number: 1763
Registered: 1-2001
Posted From: 75.108.82.163
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 04, 2006 - 4:14 pm: | |
John, I had the same thing happen once. My generator fuel line was t'eed off the main fuel line. When I removed the genset, the fuel line was removed and that let air into the main fuel line. This of course let the main fuel pump suck air.
To correct this I installed an electric fuel pump in the main line and a shut off valve in the generator line after the T.
The electric pump needs to run only long enough to prime the main pump. It can then be turned off as the main pump will pull fuel thru the electric pump, even if it is turned off.
Richard |
Bob greenwood (Bob_greenwood)
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Username: Bob_greenwood
Post Number: 424
Registered: 7-2006
Posted From: 64.136.49.228
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 04, 2006 - 4:37 pm: | |
yep...& I had a lift pump go out on a mack truck & they wanted 240.00 for a new one, I put a 30.00 electric on it & drove it for 10 more years
It's not that hard to put an electric in the line,I thought you had already done it & everything was fine |
John Harrelson (Jharl)
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Username: Jharl
Post Number: 21
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 72.71.219.249
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 04, 2006 - 4:52 pm: | |
No I had removed it. I need to move the bus soon, so I will cap off the genset line for now (genset not working ((ANYWAY))). Then how do I bleed????????? |
Bob greenwood (Bob_greenwood)
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Username: Bob_greenwood
Post Number: 425
Registered: 7-2006
Posted From: 64.136.49.228
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 04, 2006 - 5:31 pm: | |
GET THE ELECTRIC FUEL PUMP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Message edited by bob greenwood on December 04, 2006) |
John Harrelson (Jharl)
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Username: Jharl
Post Number: 22
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 72.71.215.192
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 5:44 pm: | |
Ok got the fuel pump on and found three lines. One went know where, that was capped. The other two go into the tunnel. I have to figure out which line is which. Now on to my problem; how much fuel will need in an 01 eagle, that is at a 4 to 5 degree up hill, the front is heading up hill. The pickup tube is on the forward part of the factory tank. I have added 30 gal. I am assuming that the tank was empty. I still have no prime.
<<<----- I love my ugly bus |
Bob greenwood (Bob_greenwood)
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Username: Bob_greenwood
Post Number: 440
Registered: 7-2006
Posted From: 64.136.49.228
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 6:15 pm: | |
more diesel...never let it get below half a tank |
John Harrelson (Jharl)
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Username: Jharl
Post Number: 23
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 72.71.215.192
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 6:20 pm: | |
bob, since the tank is about a 130 gal, and I am using 3, 5 gal tanks, that is not helpful I just wantto know how many gals i need before i get the prime. I will try more tommarrow. |
Len Silva (Lsilva)
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Username: Lsilva
Post Number: 74
Registered: 12-2000
Posted From: 71.31.120.114
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 8:24 pm: | |
Take a look at the pics I placed under subject "Fuel Pump". Mine is a 4104 but the basics are the same.
Len |
Jim Dooley (Eeyore)
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Username: Eeyore
Post Number: 2
Registered: 2-2007
Posted From: 207.177.126.3
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 12:51 am: | |
Hi, I had 71 series engines in mine equipment I had to maintain. Operators frequently ran them dry. On the tough ones I found the best way was 1st to get enough fuel in the tank, which has been a question of yours. Find the line out of the fuel tank that feeds the engine, should be the larger one. Or find the incomming line from the tank at your primary set of fuel filters and hook to that line. The smaller one is your fuel return in most cases. Unhook that line from the tank and Hook your electric "in side " to the tank and see if it pumps fuel. If not add fuel till it does. This is trial and error, 5 gallon at a time. Hook that line back up. Remove your filters and fill them with good clean fuel and reinstall them. Fill from the outer holes in the filter, your filter filters from the out side and clean fuel comes out the center hole. You will find the fuel return hose comming off your cylinder heads, teeing to gather and returning to the tank. Disconnect the one that goes to the tank or just go to the tank and do it there. Put your fuel pump "in side" to the tee from the cylinder heads, or the line running into the tank. Put the out side in a clean jug with a little fuel in the bottom and make sure the out line is below the fuel level, that way you can see air bubbles being purged from the system. Turn it on and this will pull the fuel from your tank through all filters, into the supply line (a cavity inside the head)for your fuel injectors. When you have run it long enough to purge all air bubbles, this may take some time, reconnect that line. Then the engine should start after several tries. If you have someone spray a little starting fluid (sparingly) in the air filter as you crank the engine over, it will run on the starting fluid till the system finishes priming itself and start. |