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john wood (206.252.234.5)

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Posted on Saturday, February 02, 2002 - 7:38 pm:   

Stainless steel shell, cupro-nickle heat exchanger, 1500 watt electric element in one neat package. Would this be a good item for bus conversions? If so let me know if any of you would be interested or if I should advertise this product in the mag. I will probably try one in my conversion to be. Let me know your thoughts.


http://www.htproducts.com/products/marine/
FAST FRED (209.26.87.44)

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Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2002 - 5:52 am:   

THE bid advantage of the Super Store over the many other marine items built just like it , is the 2 inch of insulation.

Used by yachtsmen that hate the engine or gen set noise / stink the unit has great value in the ability to have some hot water for the dishes 2 days after the engine was last run.

The sail folks have a TOTALLY different concept of water usage from the RV folks.

Most find a couple of gallons a day to be great , the RV folks use hundreds of times as much water, in daily lving.

If you can use the advantage , go for it.

A second advantage of most marine (dont know about this one} water heaters is they have a dry water protector (heat sensor} that will save the electric heating element should the unit be electrified with no water inside.

Easily done with a winter bypassed setup , and poor design/operation of the electrical system.

Also the marine stuff is usually very tough , good for vibration ect.,
unlike the house stuff not made to move ,{glass lined iron cans} untill scrapped.

FAST FRED
Jerry H. (Coachconversion) (68.80.0.131)

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Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2002 - 9:28 am:   

Deja-vu

John, I was looking at electric water heaters at http://www.johnwoodwaterheaters.com (and others) trying to find a compact electric unit. Problem was that most of the smaller units only had 1-in. of insulation. This one has 2-in., plus the stainless tank.

Thanks.. good link.
Jerry H.
Mallie (208.165.104.15)

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Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2002 - 2:46 pm:   

I did not see a price, but I would bet it is in the $400 plus range. Might be just right if you expect to encounter salt water. The insulation statement does not say what it is,, but if it is water applied, I would doubt it is foam, and odds are it is cellulose, or paper. I could not see details of the side arm heat exchanger for the engine, or if it was double insulated. I would bet it is, but I would want to be sure, so you do not get a taste of anti freeze.
Compared to a home type elect heater priced at about $150, which you can easily add a safe engine heat exchanger too, it would not seem to have a lot of advantages. And you can replace or change the size of the element to fit your electrical needs, 850w to 1500w, for a mere $8 at any local hardware store. I have a 20 gallon home elect. on a boat,, been working fine for over 10 years.
Mallie
john Wood (206.252.234.101)

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Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2002 - 4:28 pm:   

The SuperStor has 2" foam insulation, 15' sq of "sidearm" made of cupro-nickel. I see the advantages as being very light weight and compact with a very low head loss in the heat exchanger. Oh; and a 5 year warranty for marine use. 20 gallon tank is 27" tall and 20" in diameter. Has 1500 watt element and yes, mildly pricy.

They also have a less expensive version without the electric element with a lifetime leak warranty. Made for residential use. Sell lot's of these up to 119 gallon! The 30 gal lowboy is 27 1/2" x 23" and with an external electric unit if needed may be a better way to go as you get 30 gallons of hot water at a time.

You still did not say if there would be a market for these to convertors.

I also have available 24 VDC actuated ball valves for hydronic heat. Also very compact and light. They are made for industrial/ commercial fluid control. Interest level on this?
Rich (24.147.234.166)

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Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2002 - 4:48 pm:   

Hi John,

I've got SuperStor 40 gal residential water heater in my house. I've had it for over 11 years and love it. It has a stainless tank and a liquid to liquid exchanger which gets it's heat for the house boiler. SuperStor has a very good reputation.

Any literature on items of this nature would be of interest to me, I'm always looking for the better items for my conversion.

Thanks,
Rich
johnhwood (206.252.234.101)

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Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2002 - 5:05 pm:   

Send me your mailing address and I'll send a brochure! Be glad to ups one to you if needed.

john

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