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Les Seiler (Lester)
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Username: Lester
Post Number: 5
Registered: 11-2006
Posted From: 67.158.71.145
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 9:27 pm: | |
We installed a fabric headliner on the ceiling of our MC9 bus. We have used several kinds of spray glue and a brush on glue we obtained from 3M Company. The glue will hold for a while but
gradually lets go as the roof heats up.Does anyone have a suggestion as to the correct glue to use? |
Pete/RTS Daytona (Pete_rtsdaytona)
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Username: Pete_rtsdaytona
Post Number: 337
Registered: 1-2005
Posted From: 72.40.3.93
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 9:52 pm: | |
I used:
DAP Weldwood Contact Ashesive
Landau Top & Trim HHR Solvent Type
Spray Grade (natural) in 5 Gal can
Also available in red
This is a contact cement with a fast drying time (professional) and it's made to withstand high temperatures (LANDAU TOPS)
$50 from an upholstery shop - supposed to be only sold to professionals - but usually available to guys like us
Think they had 1 gal can @ $15
I used a cheap spray gun (Harbor Freight) run at full pressure (100-120 psi) - comes out like cotton candy - that's fine - it means it working - to store - always keep it full - pull the trigger half way and shoot just air to clear the nozzle - block off the air hole and stored it in a plastc bag - keeps for months and months
Either paint the wood or spray it once and let it dry - then apply a second coat - If you don't the first coat gets absorbed into the wood and IT WILL NOT HOLD - I also spray the carpet twice (just let it dry - then re-spray) - it works much better - you will not be able to pull it apart
My first attempt with out a double spray - released - pulled away - did not stick well
OPEN EVERY WINDOW/VENT - REMOVE ANY SOURCE OF FLAME OR SPARK - PUT FANS IN EVEY WINDOW - WEAR A GOOD MASK - BE CAREFULL
Pete RTS/Daytona
(Message edited by Pete RTS/Daytona on April 27, 2007)
(Message edited by pete RTS/Daytona on April 28, 2007) |
John MC9 (John_mc9)
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Username: John_mc9
Post Number: 307
Registered: 7-2006
Posted From: 66.217.106.188
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 10:02 pm: | |
Depends on the type of fabric you're using..... And the type of
surface you're trying to adhere it to.
Some glues (used for upholstery and drapes) will work
great with cotton, but not with polyester..... Some glues
for poly blends won't stick to glass or untreated metal...
(restoring antiques and upholstered items was a family biz)
Google "types of fabric glue".... there's no simple answer. |
RJmule (Rjmule)
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Username: Rjmule
Post Number: 65
Registered: 2-2007
Posted From: 75.51.69.155
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 1:13 am: | |
Les, I have installed wallcovering and fabric for 28 years until my legs gave out, but i used SHUR-STIK wallcovering adhesive there are several kinds and the 111 will stain your fabric if you use to much or get it on the front but in ALL my years never had any fall off, I have used it on yacht's as well, still waiting for the bus. RJmule Randall |
john w. roan (Chessie4905)
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Username: Chessie4905
Post Number: 535
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 71.58.117.21
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 10:05 am: | |
ran into same problem putting replacement headliners in some cars- used 3m 77 and some other brands at first. After a while in the summer heat, liner would start to come loose. Switched to 3m super90 and haven't had any more problems- but you MUST coat both surfaces, not just one side for it to work. Of course it is then a " you can only stick it once deal" like installing formica. |
Ed Roelle (Ed_roelle)
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Username: Ed_roelle
Post Number: 25
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 71.238.114.177
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 11:37 am: | |
I had good experience with latex contact cement.
I chose latex because the engineers at 3M indicated to me that it had higher temperature resistance.
First coat is heavy and let dry overnight.
2nd coat is lighter, let dry completely, attach material firmly as with any contact adhesive.
By using a heavy, first coat, it can get behind the fibers in polypropylene carpet backing, and MECHANICALLY, attach. Theoretically, there is no glue that will chemically adhere to polypropylene reliably.
Ed Roelle
Flint, MI |
Mike Eades (Mike4905)
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Username: Mike4905
Post Number: 151
Registered: 12-2000
Posted From: 68.200.183.92
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 12:07 am: | |
go to an auto trim shop and ask for foam tack. You buy a cheap paint gun and spray it on. make sure it is the green color. There are two different colors. The green will do a great job for you. You will need a compressor, and do as the instructions say. heavy is not good, even is great. I used it in my trim shop for headliners and many other chores without problems. Mike 4905 |
Justin Griffith (Justin25taylor)
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Username: Justin25taylor
Post Number: 12
Registered: 4-2007
Posted From: 69.150.58.57
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 12:13 pm: | |
Pete is all over it. The only way I have tried that worked.
Good Luck,
Justin |
Chris Peters (Chris_85_rts)
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Username: Chris_85_rts
Post Number: 16
Registered: 11-2006
Posted From: 66.194.150.45
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 5:15 pm: | |
I also used what Pete cited. My ceiling was shinny side out panelling, to which I glued indoor/outdoor fuzzy carpet, so you can guess it is pretty heavy, and it has stuck through several florida summers without a problem. |