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Linda & Kirby Karlsson (Linda4104fl)
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Posted on Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 12:53 pm:   

We're wondering if anyone on the board has used the Pacific Pride network. Apparently one has to set up an account through an independent franchisee, and we're curious as to whether it makes any difference at all which franchise we choose. Also, has anyone had adverse or unfortunate experiences using this network?
Kirby
Buswarrior (Buswarrior)
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Posted on Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 1:26 pm:   

Hello Kirby.

Pacific Pride cardlocks partner with Petro Canada's PetroPass cardlocks here in Canada, which I have for the company truck. Works great, fill up, and bill comes at the end of the month based on your fuel contract, not the pump price.

You might want to check and see what the price spread is between commercial cardlock diesel and retail auto/RV diesel in the jurisdictions you travel, and whether you have a way to use a large enough volume of fuel to get the price down.

There can be many cents on the gallon/litre difference on the tax rates applied to both. That's why we see the RV's all fueling at the auto pumps, not out at the truck pumps.

If you get one, be sure to get the international options, you never know when you might have need to run for the border!!

However, regardless of the price break, a busnut might want to consider having a popular and widely recognized commercial cardlock account, because you never know when you might want fuel in the middle of the night under what extreme conditions away from home.

Some regard the bus conversion as part of our civic responsibility to not be victims in times of trouble. A cardlock account helps in your preparedness.

When things go wrong, we've seen the pictures of line-ups at fuel stations, or participated in them. High risk for civil disobedience at fueling stations under crisis conditions. The general public won't be at the cardlock, nothing there for them.

The cardlock companies have directories to find all their sites.

Like every other charge card, you don't have to use it, but when you need it, you've got it.

happy coaching!
buswarrior
Don Evans (Doninwa)
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Posted on Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 4:52 pm:   

I have a regular non commercial account. Have used it both for cars and bus. One drawback is they don't always have the price posted on the pumps. You don't know what the price is until you get the bill from your local dealer. They are never busy and usually set up for large rigs.

Have not used it much away from the local dealer last couple years so my info is dated. There is a little town in the middle of nowhere called Kahlotus WA that has a restroom that you access with your card. Spotless with flowers and a candy dish.
larry currier (Larryc)
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Posted on Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 7:19 pm:   

For everyones info, the restrooms at Pacific Pride can be accessed with any credit card, not just a Pacific Pride card. Many PPs take bank cards at the islands. It can make a huge difference in the franchise you use, some will charge you $.02 a gallon and some want $.25 a gallon premium. Pacific Prides fuel is generally $.20 higher per gallon than Flying J in my area. The only way to know what price you are paying at PP is to use a credit card. I use their fuel in emergencies.
Mark R. Obtinario (Cowlitzcoach)
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Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 10:43 am:   

Using the cardlocks can be very convenient but as with anything else that is convenient, you pay for the convenience.

Traveling cross country you are apt to pay a large premium for the privilege of using the cardlock pumps. As Larry has pointed out, it can be as much as $0.25 per gallon.

Here in SW WA state, I stopped using the cardlock because the price I was paying was almost always higher than if I went to any one of several other stations in the area.

I also ran into a problem when I was out of the area and found the only PP station had the card reader that used the card punched full of holes rather than the credit card most other stations used. 500 miles from home, very little cash on hand, no fuel in the bus, and the cardlock didn't work for me. Not a fun afternoon.

If you have a fleet, using a cardlock makes some sense. If you have just the one vehicle, shopping around and fueling where the price is posted can usually save you a lot of $$$.

Mark O.
Castle Rock, WA
Linda & Kirby Karlsson (Linda4104fl)
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Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 12:00 pm:   

Thanks to all who have offered their experiences. For some reason, I thought PP would be a bit cheaper than the regular places. As for knowing the price, a friend of ours who has a PP card says he calls the 800 number and they tell him the price on that day or maybe for that location, not sure.

Kirby
David Evans (Dmd)
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Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 9:48 pm:   

someone posted this site awhile ago and its a good source altho depressing at times. Our prices have gone up every thurs for the last 4 weeks. www.dieselboss.com/fuel

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