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| Henry 96A3 (Hank)
Registered Member Username: Hank Post Number: 101 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 69.129.126.133 Rating: N/A |
Any wisdom on getting the inside dually to let go of the brake drum? It appears to be rusted on tight. I let the jack down gently until there was full coach weight on it and nothing budged. I have some penetrating stuff sitting on it too. I don't want to use the sledge as it will dent the rim and ruin the paint. I can't move the coach either because the front end is all apart. Worse case is I can wait until I have the front end back together and have the tire guys deal with it. Thanks, Hank | ||
| J.C.B. (Eagle)
Registered Member Username: Eagle Post Number: 122 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 166.214.255.235 Rating: |
Hank did you remove the inside lug nuts from the inside rim? This is experience speaking been there and did that. | ||
| Gus Causbie (Gusc)
Registered Member Username: Gusc Post Number: 378 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 63.97.117.52 Rating: N/A |
Good point, JCB, some might not know about those two sets of lug nuts on heavy duty dual wheels. The second set of lug nuts look just like lug bolts except they have square ends. They are not like the one tons wheels which use only one set of nuts. Henry, the way to hit the wheel with a hammer is flat against the lug securing surface between the lug bolts. Be sure not to hit the lug bolts. It is better to use a very large short piece of steel between the hammer and wheel. When you hit the wheel this way the hammer force rebounds from the drum against the wheel. Don't hit it too hard, don't want to mess up the wheel surface. | ||
| Henry 96A3 (Hank)
Registered Member Username: Hank Post Number: 102 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 69.129.126.133 Rating: N/A |
Sorry for my ignorance but I don't see any nuts on the inside dually. All of the studs have square heads and the manual doesn't mention anything about extra nuts on the drives. Here's a pic  | ||
| Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
Registered Member Username: Luvrbus Post Number: 49 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 74.33.37.119 Rating: N/A |
Hank those are the lug nuts for the inside wheel | ||
| Henry 96A3 (Hank)
Registered Member Username: Hank Post Number: 103 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 69.129.126.133 Rating: N/A |
Ah, I think it's finally dawning on me! The studs have a flange that seats in the chamfered hole of the rim! I'm glad I'm learning this now and not on the side of the road. Thanks very much guys. | ||
| Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
Registered Member Username: Luvrbus Post Number: 50 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 74.33.37.119 Rating: N/A |
henry they make 2 sockets to remove those one is for the square head only and the other has the outside and inside all in one cost from 15 bucks up depending where you buy good luck your on the right track noe | ||
| J.C.B. (Eagle)
Registered Member Username: Eagle Post Number: 123 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 209.183.34.44 Rating: N/A |
Hank Those are what I was referring to. It is very hard to see that they are lug nuts. Good luck. | ||
| David (Davidinwilmnc)
Registered Member Username: Davidinwilmnc Post Number: 171 Registered: 7-2005 Posted From: 152.20.216.103 Rating: N/A |
You'll need a Budd socket for those. It's like a socket within a socket. The combo sockets are a bit pricey, but Harbor Freight has 'em for about the lowest price I could find around here. One question I have is about torquing these. Is the inside section torqued to the same spec. as the outside nut? David | ||
| Kyle Brandt (Kyle4501)
Registered Member Username: Kyle4501 Post Number: 340 Registered: 9-2004 Posted From: 68.207.96.111 Rating: N/A |
Get the socket for the square only, The combination socket doesn't grip the square as well. If the last tire guy rounded the corners. . . I know I've had problems with my combo socket. For what it's worth, Your mileage may vary. | ||
| David (Davidinwilmnc)
Registered Member Username: Davidinwilmnc Post Number: 172 Registered: 7-2005 Posted From: 65.184.59.107 Rating: N/A |
Kyle, how far does the square lug extend into the socket that it doesn't grip well? Mine's worked pretty good the 4-5 times I've used it, but my corners weren't rounded off. | ||
| Gus Causbie (Gusc)
Registered Member Username: Gusc Post Number: 379 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 63.97.117.46 Rating: N/A |
David, Same torque for both types of nuts. I never had any problem with my combo socket either, but it is easy to round off those square inside nuts if you don't keep the socket straight. The four-way manual wrenches all have a separate square socket for the inside nuts. | ||
| Kyle Brandt (Kyle4501)
Registered Member Username: Kyle4501 Post Number: 341 Registered: 9-2004 Posted From: 72.155.173.110 Rating: N/A |
RE: Kyle, how far does the square lug extend into the socket that it doesn't grip well? It has to clear when dealing with the outter nuts, & the steel wheel is 3/8"? thick, so I'd say it was less than 3/8". But that was just my limited experience. |
