| Author | Message | ||
| H3-40 (Ace)
Registered Member Username: Ace Post Number: 743 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 75.201.230.203 Rating: N/A |
Just curious as to how many people have one and use them? I have one but never used it. I Have noticed that it DOES work so maybe I'll start using it more! Ace | ||
| R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb Post Number: 213 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 4.240.214.221 Rating: N/A |
I most ALWAYS compare the odometer with the Hub...not that there is anything really definitive, but since this wonderful coach came with it, why not????  Also have an hour meter, and that gets my attention in the winter, when I "run it up" every couple of weeks. Good for the seals, etc, since I can't go anywhere.  ( Just like to go out and hear the hummmmmmmmm of that Cummins. Uhm Boy!!! (No marbles here). BTW....there is a difference, usually....in the readings at a fill-up. But then, there's a difference in the front end and the rear end..... 's OK ACE.... Just joshin' wit 'cha? RCB | ||
| JC Alacoque (Jc_alacoque)
Registered Member Username: Jc_alacoque Post Number: 54 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 74.127.205.107 Rating: N/A |
A lot of buses don't have odometers up front, but have a hubodometer on the drive axle. I was "brouhgt up" with them. At the end of the day, you went to the back to read the hubo to record the mileage on the M27 form, before the days of the log books. Both my 1957 Courier 96 and the 102D3 have only a hubodometer. | ||
| JC Alacoque (Jc_alacoque)
Registered Member Username: Jc_alacoque Post Number: 55 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 74.127.205.107 Rating: N/A |
Another note: make sure the model matches the Revs per mile of your tires. The last 3 digits of the hubo's model number is the RPM of the tires. It will then be very accurate. | ||
| Tim Brandt (Timb)
Registered Member Username: Timb Post Number: 118 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 74.244.14.221 Rating: N/A |
Hubodometer is the only thing my caoch has and yes I use it mostly for figuring out filter change intervals. I don't have a speedo or an odometer in the dash just a tach. | ||
| R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb Post Number: 215 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 4.240.213.234 Rating: N/A |
Exactly, JC....back....not front. Least that is what I have seen over the decades. RCB | ||
| JC Alacoque (Jc_alacoque)
Registered Member Username: Jc_alacoque Post Number: 56 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 74.127.205.107 Rating: N/A |
Another note: make sure the model matches the Revs per mile of your tires. The last 3 digits of the hubo's model number is the RPM of the tires. It will then be very accurate. | ||
| Buswarrior (Buswarrior)
Registered Member Username: Buswarrior Post Number: 1162 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 76.68.134.70 Rating: N/A |
Yup, I have one, and use it. Odometer in speedo hasn't changed since long before the coach belonged to me. In brand new commercial coaches, it is fascinating to see the hub and the dash out by a couple hundred after 200 000... I've wondered which was closer to the truth... Very heavy dependence on the tire revolutions for both the hub and the dash, and the engine computer as well. GPS may be our saviour from this variable, but has it's own set of "wonders"... happy coaching! buswarrior | ||
| Tony LEE (T_lee)
Registered Member Username: T_lee Post Number: 18 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 58.165.223.77 Rating: N/A |
"a couple of hundred after 200,000." difference of 0.1% is insignificant | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 202 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 66.90.229.110 Rating: N/A |
STD procedure on commercials is to install a new Hubmaster with each engine change. Makes it EZ to keep track of Da Book required maint. More accurate than most speedometer contained odometers , so fuel mileage can be worked out with a simple log. FF | ||
| Jack Conrad (Jackconrad)
Registered Member Username: Jackconrad Post Number: 717 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 76.3.169.171 Rating: N/A |
We installed a new hubmeter the day we purchased our bus. We use the hubmeter to log fuel fill ups, maintenence, repairs, additons, etc. We have compared it to our odometer, less that .1% difference. We also compared speedometer to GPS, dead on at 30-45 MPH, within 2-3 MPH at 60-70. Jack | ||
| Edward J. Sommers (Sommersed)
Registered Member Username: Sommersed Post Number: 29 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 148.78.155.174 Rating: N/A |
I also have no distance indicator at the steering station, Hubometer is all I have. Glance at it on walk around checks to make sure I do not go over 800 miles between fillups (leaving 40 in the tank). | ||
| David Dulmage (Daved)
Registered Member Username: Daved Post Number: 190 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 142.46.199.30 Rating: N/A |
I don't have an odometer on the dash, only the hubodometer. I base my preventative maintenance on a rough recollection of where I have travelled (e.g. round trip from Spencerville, ON to St. Paul, MN was approximately 2500 miles) and/or the time elapsed; I never think to check the hubodometer. Dave D | ||
| L James Jones Jr (Jamo)
Registered Member Username: Jamo Post Number: 30 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 24.59.119.14 Rating: N/A |
On my Harley, I use the trip odometer to judge my fill up time...every time. I can get 200 miles out of a 5 gal tank on most rides...and I fill by 180. My 4104 has no speedometer, no odometer, but there is a hubodometer on my rear wheel. I did record the mileage when I first bought the bus from Dounan, but having no idea as to how long 140 gal's will last, I guess I'm listening here. I do know the bus was full before the last 2 roadtrips...about 75 miles each. (I topped the tank off after Dounan delivered her) Looks like I'll be playing the odo game with the 4104...just lots more miles, and lots more $$$. Ahhhh....live fast, play hard. | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 839 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.48.5 Rating: N/A |
Depending on how hard you run your coach, figure on 8 miles to the gallon. Drive 800 miles and see how much it'll take to refill it. I wouldn't try to use more than 100 to 120 gallons out of the tank max, before refill. If you don't have a fuel gage, you might want to install one. I know, with a little careful figguring, you don't need no stinkin gage, but it is nice to have and not that difficult to install other than removing the tank. But that will give you the chance to drain and clean it. You would be amazed the amount of crud build up in one. A lot of that crud is going to end up in the fuel filters eventually. I drained my tank a couple years ago and then put fuel back into the tank, 5 gallons at a time and than recorded how much it took to just get the gage to move, how much more to 1/4 tank and so forth. Nice info to have with coach records. | ||
| Simon Ayriss (Design_dog)
Registered Member Username: Design_dog Post Number: 99 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 69.227.189.77 Rating: N/A |
Since this covers Hubometers and some of the discussion has led to fuel... My stupid question of the month is: Can someone tell me the best way how to use, and with what material, to make a basic fuel dip stick?? Is there some best material as to not contaminate the fuel tank? Also, who if anybody, carries or is using one? Right now it is hard to say for example just how much I got in my tank to start out with and I'd rather not see how much it takes at the pump. | ||
| JC Alacoque (Jc_alacoque)
Registered Member Username: Jc_alacoque Post Number: 57 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 74.127.205.107 Rating: |
I keep a piece of garden hose on top of the tank for dipping if need be. Could be used for syphoning too. I also have a small piece of 2X4 to wedge the fuel nozzle open if it doesn't have a clip on the trigger. A rolled up pair of work gloves is about the right size too. | ||
| H3-40 (Ace)
Registered Member Username: Ace Post Number: 745 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 70.221.251.209 Rating: N/A |
I have a fuel gauge in my bus but my generator tank is separate. I can't really see IN the tank so I use a piece of 1/2 inch CPVC tubing that was left over. It measures how much I have by sticking it straight down in the tank. Has worked very well since the beginning! I tried a rubber hose but found that it was bending if not exactly right when at the bottom giving me a false reading! Ace | ||
| Cameron Jones (Crazy71)
Registered Member Username: Crazy71 Post Number: 79 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 72.49.253.33 Rating: N/A |
I use a piece of tree limb. LOL But I really do. It was the first thing I could grab one day and I have been using it since. | ||
| Tim Brandt (Timb)
Registered Member Username: Timb Post Number: 119 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 74.244.14.221 Rating: N/A |
I use a wooden yardstick | ||
| Jeffrey Smith (Greenhornet)
Registered Member Username: Greenhornet Post Number: 99 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 198.136.32.74 Rating: N/A |
I use a wooden dowel. | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 840 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.48.5 Rating: N/A |
I use that stinkin gage on the dash. The first time you run it out of fuel, put stick or whatever in tank and check remaining level, then put a mark above it about, say one inch. Some coaches could have a couple inches left in tank when it runs out. Or you could unhook fuel feed line at engine compartment and siphon or pump it out till it quits, then mark it. Of course, you'll have to re fill the feed line so the engine starts properly. Or you could never let it get below 1/4 tank. But, have you ever or almost run a car out of fuel, even with a working gage? | ||
| Jim Wilke (Jim Bob) (Pd41044039)
Registered Member Username: Pd41044039 Post Number: 253 Registered: 2-2001 Posted From: 208.6.60.4 Rating: N/A |
I put a gauge in our 4104. I set it up so when the gauge says dead empty, there is still about 150 miles of fuel left. I figured FAR better to leave 15-20 gal in the tank than to run out. A side benefit is fillups are a little cheaper. | ||
| Jack Conrad (Jackconrad)
Registered Member Username: Jackconrad Post Number: 718 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 76.3.169.171 Rating: N/A |
Altough we have a fuel gauge that seems pretty accurate, we fuel up based on the hubmeter. We drive 750 miles per the hubmeter and put it 120-130 gallon to fill the tank. | ||
| R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb Post Number: 219 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 4.240.144.107 Rating: N/A |
I got paranoid a few years back reading BNO about running out of fuel so I carry a "stick". (see archives...very enlightening) Marked the "full" when the tank was full (100 gallons, ah haaaa, but I really have 110... ) marked the 75, 50 and 25 gallon mark accordingly by measurement of the length of the "stick". SWAG, but has provided good information. FWIW RCB |
