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Wandering Wilson (Wilson) (207.200.63.86)

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Posted on Monday, May 20, 2002 - 11:55 am:   

I have skinned the lower 42 inches above the floor height with 90 thousands. This worked great, Very little flex after all the rivets were in. I counter sunk all the rivets so I have a fairly smooth surface. I also have about 1500 rivets on each side that is not very attractive. My original plan was to lay a second complete skin with polyurethane and rivets every 4 inches or so. I have noticed several aluminum sides with no rivets except in the trim resulting in a smooth rivetless skin. I would appreciate any input as to how this is being done. Thanks for all your help in advance.
OAE Palmer (208.164.102.71)

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Posted on Monday, May 20, 2002 - 11:39 pm:   

Threaded studs are spot welded to the backside and held in place with star washers and lock nuts.
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The skin can be spot or stitch welded to the framework.
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The skin can be bonded with a 2-part agent similar in concept to e-poxy.
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They also can use honeycomb skin and rivet from the inside out leaving the outer surface dimple free.
jmaxwell (66.42.92.79)

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Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 2:55 am:   

Or, they can use Stika-flex or other urethane adhesive, which, I think, is the most popular method now days.
Jim Nelson (64.24.85.52)

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Posted on Tuesday, May 28, 2002 - 6:09 pm:   

Yet another way is to fabricate smooth panels that fold over the edges and use 3M VHB 2-sided foam tape and sikaflex with rivets in the flanges on the sides of the skins. The 102D's had this setup - if you work it properly, you can have no rivets showing at all - the nose cap perimeter rivets and upper sideskin rivets are hidden under metal trim pieces. It takes a good box finger brake and a bit of patience. I would reccomend .045" 308 stainless - aluminum has a tendency to corrode on lower paneling after the slightest nick in the paint. As for carbon steel - forget it. The structure of most buses mean that wet dirt and stuff will build up behind the paneling and hideous rust holes will appear.

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