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Chris Sanderson (63.11.19.137)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 10:02 pm: | |
Hi guys- this one should be easy- Where is the damn VIN # on a 78 RTS II?I need an etching for the DMV Nazis-
Maybe this second one is worse- This is what's happening- I start the bus and both the brake and the accelerator pedal stay stuck wherever they are. They both work, but it seems like there's no air returning the pedals to where they are supposed to be. The only thing that I've done lately is remove the windshield wiper&fluid controls to fix an air leak. Oh and Ive been using shop air to pump up the system rather than let it pump up, there's some kind of compensator valve between the front wheels that sticks, I cant get to it. Well that's enough - I just want the pedals to work to drive the $@$^# thing to the shop- Anyone? Thanks in advance- |
RJ Long (Rjlong) (24.127.74.29)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 10:20 pm: | |
Chris -
Isn't there a builder's plate riveted on the front dashboard near the entrance steps? Blue square, with silver "RTS II" in large letters, then below that the model number (Starts w/ a "T") and unit number. The VIN should be right under these two. . .
As for the brake/throttle issue - are the doors open, especially the rear one? There's an interlock in the door mechanism so the coach won't move if you've got the doors open.
Federal regs, been on transits for about 50 years now. . .
You also need to get "DA BOOKS" for your bus, all three: parts book, service manual, and operator's handbook. Best $$$ you'll spend on the coach, and will answer a bunch of your ????s!
Don't forget to visit the "RTS bus-nuts" group over on Yahoo. . .
HTH,
RJ
PD4106-2784
Fresno CA |
TonyE (64.12.96.235)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:19 pm: | |
There is a ID plate behind the upper curbside engine compartment door on the side of the firewall.
TonyW |
Bradd B. Smith (Bbsrtbusproject) (208.26.165.248)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 12:23 am: | |
I haven't found the actual vin# plate on mine either and have looked in all the above places. Over the driver's seat on the pannel that hides the route sign, is a sticker with the model#, engine#, etc and what it says is the VIN#. However it does not have any letters in it and isn't long enough and does not match the title. It is probably the manufacture's VIN#, in my case Flxible. As to your second problem, RJ is probably right. In mine there is a switch over the front door behind a little spring loaded cover that turns all the interlock stuff off or on. When off, the front door has to be opened and closed by a manual valve in front of the driver's seat. The handle on the side dash no longer does anything. The back door is held in the closed position by a solenoid activated block that you can access by dropping the light cover. If you open the door in the back and prop it open, be advised it will turn on the inside green light and the tail- lights and eventualy run the batts. down. Don't ask me how I found this out. The tail-lights on for a day or two is what got me. I have almost all the transit stuff out, and will be glad when it is all gone! Good luck and if you find that plate, post it! |
FAST FRED (63.215.229.46)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 5:07 am: | |
I don't know what year Vin # were formalized ,for coaches, so the short one you did find may be it!
If that's what is on the title , or bill of sale , the BureauRATS should be happy.
FAST FRED |
Charley DeWalt (64.255.92.6)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 1:19 pm: | |
I've an 82 flyer transit style,and when I went to register and insure it,they both said the vin was invalid.After a call to flyer in Canada,and an inspection by California D>M>V>,they accepted the factory number which,by the way,was on the dash just inside the front door.
HTH
Charley |
Jason Windecker (198.81.16.32)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 3:19 pm: | |
if you ad enough zeros to the vin to make it 17 characters long then no one should have an issue with it, i think it was like 1979 that the feds changed things so as to require 17 characters to the vin numbers, whatever it says on title and if it maches what youve found, go for it,
Jason Windecker |
DaveD (216.18.113.69)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 3:30 pm: | |
My 76 MC-8 doesn't have a 17 digit VIN (it wasn't regard at the time when it was built) and I had no problem transferring it. The short VIN agreed with the title. It's probably best that the VIN you have on your title or registration (i.e. don't add zeros) is exactly the same as that on the plate in the vehicle, in case you are ever stopped or expect to sell it.
DaveD |
Toolman (Toolman) (66.153.66.103)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 6:09 pm: | |
The plate on mine is rivited to the frame behind the curbside door over the tranny and AC compressor. Have you let the air pressure build to operating range? My RTS has air start and will not do anything until the start tank is full pressure, including the breaks and fuel.
HTH
Toolman |
Chris Sanderson (63.20.197.108)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 8:24 pm: | |
Thanks everybody- I just read all this, I'll post when I find the thing- They want a tracing of the VIN-
I still cant figuire out the pedals, I've moved the bus by pulling up the brake pedal and the accellerator works fine, I know about the lockout in the "Run "position,but when that happens, there's no pedal at all,now it seems that there's no air to push the pedals back into the up position- maybe I'll fool around with it, could be some tranny interlock problem. |
Peter Broadribb (Madbrit) (170.215.38.89)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 1:45 am: | |
When I went to register my MC-8 as an RV, they wanted to see both vin #s. Took some convincing that an MCI didn't have a seperate frame and body number as it didn't have a frame.
Peter. |
Derv (24.241.7.93)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 12:12 am: | |
A note on 17 digit VIN's. You can't plug one of the old style VINs (pre 17 digit) with zeros and make it work. One of the digits (the 11th I think) is a check digit. There is a formula that checks this digit by comparing it to the first 10 digits to validate the VIN. I did the specs on this about 3 years ago for our computers (I work for an insurance company). I also remember that the 10th digit indicates the year of the vehicle. The idiots at the DMV are usually clueless if you have an old style VIN. Usually someone with override authority must tell the system to accept it as valid. I went through the same thing with an MC-8 I owned. |
Chris Sanderson (63.15.88.105)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 10:23 am: | |
Hey- Thank Guys! Of course the guy who sold me the bus had the # wrong, but they let it slide at the DMV-Surprized me, I just wrote the correct # over the old one, and yes, it was right there on the plate when you walk in the door. I'm gonna check the archive for disabling that kneel feature, I cant see what use I have for it, all it does is let all the air out. Is there a schematic for the air system posted somewheres?
Anyways, THANKS!!!! You guys are great!, I might even get the thing done someday- Chris |