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Ron in SD (24.220.60.23)

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Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 12:22 am:   

I have found a coach that has got me thinking this is the one.

RJ, do you have the history on '61 4106-448?

I was wondering what everyone thinks about this coach and what the going rate is. The coach is located in South Dakota as am I.

This coach is currently setup as a excutive type shuttle. It was used to transport people to on of the local casino. It has three rows of coach seats. 6 captain chairs. Two fold out coachs. A two burner cooks top. A ice chest box. Small Kitchen Sink. The orgianal coach bathroom.

It is licensed as a motorhome in South Dakota until Mar 2003.

It has a 8V71 with a 4 speed. The clutch has just been replaced. The tires and rims have been replaced with alcoa 24.5 rims and 11.00R24.5 tires. The tires are also new.

It has manual steering.

The coach A/C has been converted to R134 and the coach heat also works. The owner said he has to add a couple pounds to R134 each year and then everything is great. There must be a small leak some where in the A/C system.

One bay door had been hit but opens. One door the hinge is bad. The door right behind the enterance door has had piano hinge bolted to the outside to replace the rubber hinge.

All side glass is good. Front passenger windsheild is cracked. Drives windsheild has a rock chip about two inches up.
Tom Caffrey (Pvcces) (64.114.233.115)

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Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 10:51 pm:   

Ron, most conversions go in one of two directions. Either they retain a few of the original seats and sleeping arrangments are a number of bunks, or they get a real bedroom, bathroom and cooking facilities. Usually, only the second type gets much for tankage and is worth a darn for boondocking.

What it's worth is going to depend on how you intend to use it. If the present conversion fits your needs, it could be worth quite a lot to you. If what you want to do is fulltime or boondock, then you might find yourself replacing most of the existing conversion work.

If you buy it, be sure to give serious thought to saving the heating and air system. It might be expensive to maintain, but it is real effective.

Tom Caffrey PD4106-2576
Ron in SD (24.220.60.23)

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Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 12:21 am:   

Thanks for you message Tom. I plan on working my way to a full motorhome type conversion. The main thing that I want is to use the coach while I do the conversion. I don't want it to end up being a garage potato.

I really like the idea that the coach heat and A/C work. I read message all the time with people saying they can keep the coach cool or warm while driving down the road.

I am thinking about using webasto type heater and a A/C compressor that hooks into the current A/C system. I am not sure how to get the A/C to work yet. The HVAC guy I know is on vacation.

The current asking price is $7k. I think it is a little high based on stuff I have seen on other boards and ads. The fact that it is only a couple hours away is a plus. I have been looking at coachs that are 10 - 15 hours away.
Tom Caffrey (Pvcces) (64.114.233.135)

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Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 1:14 am:   

Ron, I think the thing that will give you the most trouble integrating the AC systems will be the air circulation. That's because the blowers already on the coach are real power hogs and have no slow speed (high and medium only).

A solid state controlled blower that could vary its speed according to system needs and run on very low power might give you a way to solve that.

I think getting two different compressors to feed the under floor evaporator is not too difficult.

However, Fast Fred uses an in the bay AC, and I believe he probably has a very good setup.

Good Luck!

Tom Caffrey PD4106-2576
Donald Ames (Donames) (67.242.33.161)

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Posted on Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 10:02 am:   

Hey RJ,

While you are doing history searches, could you find mine? It is PD4903-394. I purchased it in 1998 from a guy that had just gotten it from ABC Bus Company in NJ (I think he got scared by it’s condition and sold it right away) but it had logos on it from VIP Charters in Maine. I did not do any tracking and unfortunately I did not ask for any service records. I bought the bus for $3500.00 and drove it home. I was told by a mechanic that for that price if it starts and runs it is a good value, but be prepared to spend some time and money in repairs. He was correct and I have spent time and money on repairs (mostly time since the cash is scarce). We have been full timing in it now since 2000.

Just for your records PD4903-254 has been scrapped. I purchased it from CMTS Ministries in PA after the engine blew. They had just replaced the transmission with an automatic. I grabbed the trans for mine and a few other parts and windows and then they cut the rest up for scrap. They still have my old 4 speed and an automatic that has a slipping reverse.

Don Ames (PD4903-394)

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