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Richard Bowyer (Drivingmisslazy) (66.190.119.82)

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Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 11:54 am:   

I just opened an attachment from somebody on the board that contained a virus. My Norton could not fix it.
I got a chance to tryout the GO BACK program on my Gateway computer, and it really worked slick. I only had to select a time that I wanted it to go back to. Had a selection of minutes or several days.
Just to be safe, I selected 24 hours and within a few minutes my computer was back in time to yesterday. I then deleted the message and everything is now fine. I did note that all the posts that I had previously read within the past day now appeared as un-read.
I do not know if this software is available from anywhere else, but it sure works slick.
Richard
tfones (Chapter7) (159.49.254.12)

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Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 12:29 pm:   

Richard,
Windows XP from Microsoft! Has the restore function.

Check your Norton settings...it should have warned you before it was opened and Q'ed the virus.

tony
Peter (Sdibaja) (209.242.148.130)

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Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 3:17 pm:   

Richard: Tony is right... Norton (a modern version, not free software) will give you a warning with an option to either repair/clean (seldom works) and then to quarantine or delete.

If you quarantine or delete no harm can be done, no need to "go back".

NEVER select the option to ignore and open it, which is the same as saying "I WANT my computer to get the virus"

Peter
joe shelton (Littlewind) (67.241.230.240)

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Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 10:37 pm:   

Windows 98 also has the restore function but must be exicuted with the computer running in the safe-mode AND you have to know how to navigate. I have done this a couple of times with good results. Joe
Ian Giffin (Admin) (64.228.43.177)

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Posted on Friday, August 30, 2002 - 12:44 pm:   

Hi folks,

Just to be clear about the current so-called "Klez" virus, when you receive an e-mail from someone and it is infected with this virus, the e-mail has NOT come from the person you think it came from.

For example, BNO has many, many e-mail address listings all over this web site on about a hundred different pages. We're out there many times for any computer to collect our address and re-send anything to anyone.

Several people have written to us recently admonishing us for having sent them a virus via e-mail.

Impossible! We do not have the capability of sending an e-mail from any @busnut.com address with the exception of those from this 'subscribed to' bulletin board system and they are identified in a very unique way and they never have attachments - in fact, messages from this bbs contain no computer languages at all. Before messages are sent, they are automatically converted into plain text.

I think Clarke Echols wrote the best explanation for this recent virus phenomenon on the MAK board when he wrote,

"The infected message you got didn't come from anyone on the board. It came from an infected machine and used an address it found somewhere on that machine to forge a sender address to make it look like it came from someone on the board. The Klez worm is notorious for doing that.

First of all, NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER open an attachment coming from someone you don't normally get email from, and even then open it only if you know what it contains and trust the source. If the attachment ends with .exe, .bat, .com, and other suffixes except .txt, .jpg, or .gif, don't open it unless you know what it is and are expecting it. There are even attempts by some to infect .gif and .jpg files (graphics images and pictures). One way to reduce your exposure too is to run Netscape 4.79 instead of Outlook Express when reading mail. I have been bombarded by the Klez worm for months now, but it has never been able to contaminate my machine.

Also, keep your software up to date. If you are running windows, go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com and click on critical updates. It will give you a list of available updates for your system, many of them related to security attacks on your machine. People who write worms and viruses like to target Outlook, Outlook Express, and Internet Explorer because they have weaknesses in the security arena. You can also select at that site the ability to automatically get updates as they become available. If you load that onto your system, it will check the Microsoft site every few minutes when you are online to see if any new updates are available (I got a new update notice today and downloaded it at that time. It was a fix to plug another security hole in Internet Explorer.

It also helps if your ISP filters incoming mail for viruses. I used to get hit anywhere from 5-15 times per week with the Klez worm. A few months ago, I would get hit that many times PER DAY! But my ISP has trapped the Klez worm in my incoming mail twice in the last 24 hours and it never sees my machine. It holds all trapped spam, viruses, and worms, then I can go to a web page to view my trapped mail and decide if I want it all discarded or if I want to release something that got trapped that wasn't actually spam.

I see no end in sight for elminating the problem from the net, so you're going to have to get a lot smarter about prevention. Still, my basic advice above will prevent you from being a victim 90-99% of the time. Also, it's smart to install anti-virus software on your system. It will monitor your incoming mail and other files for contamination. HOWEVER, it must be updated frequently (usually the first year of updates come free, then you pay for subsequent years).

CE"


I must thank Clarke for that exceptional explanation and thank him for using his message here.

There is nothing that I can disagree with in Clarke's message. We use Netscape and Netscape Mail here at BNO and advocate that our readers do the same by stating on our Home Page that BNO is best viewed with Netscape. I'll also reiterate that we use Norton AntiVirus software which has worked flawlessly on our computers since our beginnings and, again, suggest that you protect your computer with this or other quality anti-virus software.

Happy surfing.

Ian Giffin
www.busnut.com
Bradd B. Smith (Bbsrtbusproject) (208.26.165.88)

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Posted on Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 1:16 am:   

This may seem odd, but has anyone any idea what would motivate someone to go to all that trouble to cause strangers grief? Arrogance? Insane? Why don't you ever hear of one of these "authors" being caught. Surley the amount of money they are costing must be a felony, and some enforcement agency should be actively pursuing this. What will it take? A terrorist virus? All that talent, such a waste, Bradd
Peter Broadribb (Madbrit) (170.215.60.187)

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Posted on Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 2:15 am:   

Bradd,
some have been caught and they have been given very stiff penalties too, including jail time.
Peter.

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