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H3-40 (Ace)
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Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 11:58 pm:   

Having pictures during all stages of our conversion from start to finish is always a good thing and something to look back on but my question revolves around, even though I have taken many pictures, the way I have saved them which is in many different places, and from a couple different sources such as, my own camera, other peoples camera, my phone camera and other people's posted pics which means all the pics are of different quality and size. My question is, some of these pics are big and some of them small. How can I make the small pictures larger without distorting them? Is there a means for doing this or will I just have to live with small pics and start over? I'd sure hate to buy another bus to convert just to take larger pics!
Thanks...
Ace
John MC9 (John_mc9)
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Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 1:04 am:   

With electronic media:

Once the captured resolution has been made at a small resolution (size),
expanding the resolution (size) without empathizing the lack of pixle
data, is near impossible using conventional form.

HUH? Say what?

You can't "blow up" a 1m picture to a 5m size, without seeing
a bunch of boxes.

Ok... how to...

Take the picture (print), and either scan it, or use a coventional film
camera to take another capture (picture) of that print.

That picture should have enough resolution to be able to increase
the printable size of it, without the distortion of expanded pixel data.

It will never be "top quality", but it'll look better than a 1m pix blown
up to a 8x10 size.
Pete/RTS Daytona (Pete_rtsdaytona)
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Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 7:00 am:   

I use this FREE (somewhat stripped down) version of Microsoft 2006 Digitial Image editor

here's a safe download (CNET) -->
http://www.download.com/Microsoft-Digital-Image-Starter-Edition-2006/3000-12511_4-10508408 .html

lets you easily change to a UNIFORMED picture size - by just (right clicking on the picture and selecting "OPEN WITH" and choosing M/S Image editor

Pete RTS/Daytona
Josh McElhiney (Zcommanager)
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Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 8:40 am:   

Ace,

If you happen to have access to a 'vector-based' design program, such as Macromedia Freehand, you should be able to scan your images and make the necessary adjustments. This program does not operate using pixles per say, but rather vector-based coordinates that allow you to 'blow-up' images without it becoming 'pixelated or grainy' in appearance.

Hope this Helps,

Josh
John and Barb Tesser (Bigrigger)
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Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 9:17 am:   

Ace,not sure what system you are on, but I am using Microsoft office '07 and they have an application called "Microsoft picture manager" that allows you to edit size and also crop, enhance quality, etc.
Dale Houston (Songman)
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Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 12:12 pm:   

Plus it really depends on how much you want or need to adjust the size. With modern programs you can enlarge pictures to a certain degree and still be okay. The programs do it through interpolation and they basically add more pixels based on the pixels that are around them. There are limits but within reason it can be done successfully.

I use Photoshop for all of my photo manipulation.
Ian Giffin (Admin)
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Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 2:34 pm:   

Hi Ace,

Any software will give you acceptable results, such as those listed by the folks above. I use Paint Shop Pro to do the pictures here on BNO.

The problem you will have with even the best graphics software when enlarging the picture is the "pixelation" as John MC9 said above. To demonstrate, I have included 3 pictures. The first shows the original size, the second is a reduced size and the 3rd is the 2nd picture resized back up to the original size. This is what will happen to your smaller photos.

1

2

3


What you see here, though, is all at a computer screen resolution of 72 dpi. If you are displaying these on a newer High Definition TV, the screen resolution may come in as high as 1,080 dpi and when this same photo is viewed, each of the squares in the picture will be that much larger and that much more indiscernible.

In your case, the best thing to do is to take all your smaller digital pictures and make them into physical photo albums and the rest you can make into a slide show, say, on powerpoint, which has the ability to self-launch when a burned CD is loaded into a DVD player.

Ian
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H3-40 (Ace)
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Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 6:09 pm:   

Ok guys thanks! The problem is not with me. I wasn't going to mention this as I was going to just surprise everyone but over at MAK, this guy at the mag wanted to do an article and so now you can probably figure out the surprise. After sending him everything I could think of, he still insist that my large pics are too small. I can't go back and rip stuff out just to take larger pics. I can't take new pics of the exterior due to the bus being in the shop. Oh and he gave me a deadline which now doesn't look at all good since I was hoping the bus would be out by now.
Looks like I won't make the mag in march afterall which I was really hoping for due to that being my dads birth month.
Jack Conrad (Jackconrad)
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Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 6:38 pm:   

Ace,
This won't help now but, after attending Glen McLean's digital camera seminar at Bussin' 09, I set my camera for the max. size photos. Which for our camera is 3224 X 2448 (8.3 megapixel). It is much easier to reduce than to enlarge digital photos. I bought a 500 gig external hard drive at WalMart and store all my photos on this drive at the full size. If I want to send a photo to someone in an email or reduce the size for Ebay or a website, I can easily reduce a copy to send and still have my original "full size" photo.
I just started doing this, so, like you, I have a lot of "small" photos. If there is one I "really" need to make larger, I print it, then scan it, then try to work with the scanned photo. I always seem to loose quality doing this. Jack
John MC9 (John_mc9)
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Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 6:42 pm:   

Hey I@n?

What's this stuff about Macy helping Gimbels?
John MC9 (John_mc9)
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Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 8:19 pm:   

Jack -

Try using a film camera to take a picture of a "small" printed digital
picture you want to make bigger. Then have the film digitized, and
enlarge those pictures using your digital picture program.
H3-40 (Ace)
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Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 9:22 pm:   

Ok I found some of my old under construction and during construction pics that were hidden on my OLD laptop. They had a resolution of 1200x1600 or something like that. I sent them to the mag, one pic at a time as Chad requested. We'll see what happens from here. I also told him that if that doesn't work, he can just scrap the whole thing.
One more thing I found quite funny. During our emails this past week or so, he said that the information I sent him was quite long (I didn't think it was) and he might have to shorten it. My comment was, AND HE LAUGHED, "Why shorten it"? "The guys on the BB's are already complaining the Mag is too short now"!

Needless to say, you might see an article and you may not!
It's in his court now!

Thanks for the help...
Ace
Jack Conrad (Jackconrad)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 8:53 am:   

Ace,
I think they are shortening the articles because they still want to get quite a few articles in each issue, but do it with less pages. I have written off & on for them for several years and I have also been given a smaller word count per article. I find it harder to write a "short" article than a long one. Jack
PS: If they shorten it, it may not come across exactly as you intended. Jack
H3-40 (Ace)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 4:35 pm:   

Jack he told me that he liked the article so much that he may want to run it in two consectutive months and thats when I said Why shorten it?
As it stands, it's in his hands! I left a LOT of our conversion adventure completely out and just sort of mentioned what we did in general!

I sent him a lot of pictures that were larger and he wrote me this morning saying he would see what he could do. I don't expect to see a lot in that issue let alone anything at all considering what he has to work with but we'll see!

Ace

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