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john degemis (Degemis)
Registered Member Username: Degemis
Post Number: 46 Registered: 3-2008 Posted From: 71.92.155.232
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 10:06 pm: | |
Is there any rule of thumb as to how far a water heater should be from a fuel fill for diesel? I know diesel does not give off combustible fumes like gas. Gas /electric waterheater. |
Chuck Newman (Chuck_newman)
Registered Member Username: Chuck_newman
Post Number: 300 Registered: 1-2005 Posted From: 76.246.252.104
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 1:22 am: | |
John, I'm sure there is a spec somewhere for diesel, and I don't know what it is. But the RV industry ANSI code, now under NFPA 58, lists no ignition point within 15 ft in all directions from a cylinder fill point for LPG. Granted, LPG vapors are more combustible than diesel in the presence of an ignition source. The point being 15 ft using diesel should be adequate if it is safe for LPG. I'm mounting all my flame sources on the opposite side of the bus from the fuel entrance, but if I end up in a fueling bay with gasoline and diesel pumps, I always turn off the ignition sources. I may be pumping diesel, but the guy next to me may be pumping gasoline. |
Jack Conrad (Jackconrad)
Registered Member Username: Jackconrad
Post Number: 967 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 71.54.29.215
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 9:10 am: | |
Chuck, Smart move. Another facter, when fueling, is wind speed and direction around the pumps. Jack |
john degemis (Degemis)
Registered Member Username: Degemis
Post Number: 47 Registered: 3-2008 Posted From: 71.92.155.232
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 9:51 am: | |
" no ignition point within 15 ft in all directions from a cylinder fill point for LPG" What do mini motorhomes do? All the truck stops and gas stations have rows of pumps so even with the tank on the drivers side it will be near the next row of pumps. I think turning off the hot water heater when filling makes a lot of sence. Thinking about putting a lable buy the fill to remind me. But back to my question, it is not about the LPG tank or fill but the diesel fill. And the location of the hotwater heater that has a spark and flame. |
Keith Wood (Ft6)
Registered Member Username: Ft6
Post Number: 88 Registered: 8-2008 Posted From: 75.209.128.8
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 1:07 pm: | |
Modern appliance are pilotless. If your water heater is electric ignition, you can put a cutoff switch on the circuit that tells it to light, and flip that switch before pulling into a fuel stop (this is one more advantage to tankless water heaters -- they only light when you are using hot water). As far as how close your water heater can be to the fuel cap, figure on putting your propane tanks near the fuel cap, and the water heater as far from both of those as practical. If your heater has an "enclosed space mounting" option, you can draw your burn air from anywhere that you can run the intake hose. |
Glenn Williams (Glenn)
Registered Member Username: Glenn
Post Number: 187 Registered: 6-2006 Posted From: 216.163.56.194
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 12:00 pm: | |
Easiest to keep it on the opposite side of te bus. Besides - do you want the heat coming out of the exhaust to get under an awning or close to the door? Glenn |
FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred
Post Number: 698 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 66.82.9.61
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 6:39 am: | |
Like basement Air cond exhaust ,generator exhaust the HW heater is usually on the drivers side so the stench and fumes blow into the next guys campsite. FF |
Stephen Fessenden (Sffess)
Registered Member Username: Sffess
Post Number: 754 Registered: 1-2002 Posted From: 66.38.120.219
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 8:31 pm: | |
Diesel should not ignite from a nearby flame unless they have drastically changed the formula. Propane and gasoline are much more volatile and ignite from vapors. Jack, is that why firetrucks are diesel? |