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Bryan Larrabee (Busasaurus)
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 1:00 am:   

Hi Everyone,
I'm looking for an oil filter for the 1947 Fageol coach we have in our Transit Museum collection. In the past, we were able to get the filters from Kralinator Filters but they have been out of business now for about 2 years.

The Kralinator filter number is K796.

I tried the local Baldwin distributer and they don't have anything. We're stumped.

Any suggestions?

Bryan
Vancouver BC
Clint Hunter (Truthhunter)
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 3:20 am:   

...can you use a adapter plate and go to a conventional filter ? ( yes, I know that modified is sacrilege to a museum, but then buses such as this are not exactly off the shelf in there day ). Do you have a website for a virtual museum visit?
At last there is something beyond my innocent dauphin "prisoner" pals worth visiting the next time I can not get out of visiting Vancouver.
Sean Welsh (Sean)
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 3:21 am:   

I could not find a cross-reference for that number.

The Kralinator brand is now part of Wix Filtration -- you might give them a call. (The Wix lookup on their web site did not show it.)

Alternatively, you can maybe cross it yourself. If this is a spin-on filter, you'll need to measure the stud hole diameter and thread pitch, and the gasket diameter. Then you would need to know the flow rate of the filter, the micron rating, and whether or not it is a bypass filter.

The measurements are pretty easy. Flow rate may be listed in your engine manual, or may be printed on one of the filters. Bypass vs. non-bypass, worst case, can be determined by cutting the filter open.

With this information, you ought to be able to find a spin-on that would work.

If it's a cartridge filter, you have a different problem. Cartridges need to be the exact size in order to work. Sometimes, it's easier to just remove the cartridge, and plumb in a holder for a standard spin-on instead.

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Dallas (Dal300)
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 11:20 am:   

If it has the 44 engine, the Baldwin P/N is P53.

I have no other information.

Dallas
Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 12:05 pm:   

What engine does it have I have saw 2 different engines in the bus the Waukesha and the Hall-Scott
john w. roan (Chessie4905)
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 8:41 pm:   

The Hall Scott in my Brill used a sock covered filter. Also check the NAPA Master filter catalog.
john daniels (Big_john)
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Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 3:12 pm:   

checked my cross. look at baldwin v1650-0, purolator t51, or luber-finer l16500
hope this helps BJ
Bryan Larrabee (Busasaurus)
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Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 11:35 pm:   

Our website is www.trams.ca but there's no virtual tour unfortunately. We don't have an actual museum (yet) to visit, but if you e-mail me at qayqayt at shaw.ca and give me a bit of notice, I'd be happy to give you a tour of the collection.

Thanks for the tips guys. I'll be following up on them.

Bryan
Leslie Robinson (Lesrmc9)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 11:06 pm:   

this shows a Xref at about $20 out of Ontario

http://www.mainfilter.com/cross.aspx?Part=K796
http://www.mainfilter.com/contact.aspx
Les R Langley, bc
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Clint Hunter (Truthhunter)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 11:30 pm:   

$$$ thanks for sharing your up&growing museum Bus-a-saurus; at last I may finally have a good place to promise my MC-8 "mobile billboard" for retirement (or the next time it becomes to needy).

Seeing pictures of those Canadian Trolley's brought me back to my first buses (created a one & half decker from two from the ex-Winnipeg fleet) which I converted 28 years back and "slowly" towed around with my "just as old" 1952 deuce&half 6x6 army truck. That was likely my first full blown bout of busnutfevor I reckon, though I likely first caught it at least ten years prior. IF ONLLY I hadn't cut them up and sent them off to the beer can factory, as a act of denile... perhaps amends come to all those that seek a way to create them ?

Seems to me (as a BC'er once again) that your efforts should be able to gleem at least some from of support for British Columbia 150 year celebration, to help afford a virtual museum of sorts, as a prelude to actual bricks & mortars. Considering how important the bus manufacturing industry has been to the our Economy (Winnipeg as the birthplace of MCI & Quebec as the cradle for Provost) that you should have at least some moral support & mention from the "many tax mans pockets"; least we forget the "Avro Arrow Compromise" that provided the bus industry as a substitute for our aerospace industry with regards to our neighbors !!! (not a "gouberment myth" from mason loir, just not yet declassified treasonous Diefenbaker documents, until now ,heheheh !)

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