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Douglas Tappan (Dougthebonifiedbusnut)
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Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 11:52 am:   

Well it's kind of a lousy day in N.E. so I guess it's a good time to get some info from the "Best and Brightest". Disclaimer: I have stollen that saying from Jay Sevorin,one of the conservative talk show hosts here in Boston.
anyway, I have the shower stall all framed in and the base pan in place, but now I'm a little perplexed. Should I just put in the plastic sheets all around or go all out and fiberglas the whole shower area
So the question is, Who knows a lot about fiberglassing? Like: What is the working time of the stuff? Who sells the materials? Will it stick to the plastic shower base? An is there a special paint for Fiberglass? And lastelly, Is working with fiberglass( sheets, resins ect.)something that is worth persuing?Many Thanks in Advance
FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
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Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 12:15 pm:   

I have done over 20-55G drums of resin at times building boats.

If you have ZERO knowledge of GRP , I would suggest you use plywood and a very thin layer of SS glued on.

Just as water tight as GRP and far easier to do, no learning curve , no special GRP only tools , no mess ,no smell.

If you still want to do 'fiberglass' get a Defender Industries (in CT) catalog and tools.

FF
Clint Hunter (Truthhunter)
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Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 12:58 pm:   

I suspect that "the best & brightest" was recycled from a light bulb ad from way back.
might I add "marine plywood", if you go this route. Despite the extra toxic chemicals that are in the wood, you are sealing it well, so the leaching will be very minimal.
doug yes (Dougg)
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Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 1:47 pm:   

We once fiberglassed a kitchen floor on a 4104. Added blue color to the resin and it came out beautiful. But I came out in alot of pain as a tiny sliver of glass fiber got lodged in my lung. It went away after a month of agony. So, always use a good mask, and better yet go with SS panels or premade fiberglass panels. The fiberglass panels come in white 4'X8' sheets at Lowes and/or Home Depot.
john w. roan (Chessie4905)
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Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 5:40 pm:   

you could line a shower with Formica and seal the corners
Gus Causbie (Gusc)
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Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 7:22 pm:   

There are two types of fiberglass, polyester and epoxy.

The epoxy is hazardous to your health and you can become sensitive to it and not be able to work with it.

In other words, use polyester fiberglass and be safe.

With that said, if you have lots of time and are interested in learning about fiberglass go to it! It will take lots of time and is a real mess. It sticks to everything including you!

I use FG mostly for patching because large amounts are not much fun.

Last but not least, do not mix too much resin at one time as it will harden before you use it. Try very small amounts at first to get the idea.
steve gaines (Kysteve)
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Posted on Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 9:15 am:   

Douglas,
For some good info on products and also plenty of archived how to, go to http://fiberglasssite.com and you will find what you are looking for. Their prices seem to be in line too.

HTH

Kentucky Steve
Keith Wood (Ft6)
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Posted on Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 11:42 am:   

My vote is for using premade sheeting, and use trim strips between them.

The reason is simple -- the day may come that you have to REMOVE it to do repairs on the shell following an accident, or to replace floor panels.

What would you rather do, pry out panels, or chop out glass walls?
Ralph Peters (Ralph7)
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Posted on Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 7:27 pm:   

Well I have done 2 both 36x36 and used 3/4 on rear facing wall, 5/8 forward facing wall, FRP sheets in one shower, same plywood but sheet goods(floor goods WITHOUT paper backing,flooring stores know). All things considered (sheet goods) NEVER again too much work.
FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
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Posted on Monday, April 13, 2009 - 7:34 am:   

"In other words, use polyester fiberglass and be safe."

However it is designed to build things with the use of usually fiberglass mat and roving.

It burns very well , and sticks to other materials very poorly.

Its fairly EZ to simply tear a polyester layer of glass from any plywood.

Epoxy is a good glue , far superior in adheasion to loads of things, not just it self while curing.

But its expensive and you MUST use protection from the hardener, even after its cured.

FF
Jack Hart (Jackhartjr)
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Posted on Monday, April 13, 2009 - 12:20 pm:   

Douglas...FL Cliff tiled his with GREAT results. If you talk nice to him he can point you to the link with the photos!
Jack
Grant Thiessen (Busshawg)
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Posted on Friday, April 24, 2009 - 10:49 am:   

I don't know a whole lot about it but the plastic sheets do not work well in chaging climates. I installed it last year and didn't make the winter.
Stephen Fessenden (Sffess)
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Posted on Friday, May 29, 2009 - 10:54 pm:   

On Ask This Old House recently they built a shower with OSB walls and floor, then glued on a pink looking something that looked like fabric. Then they taped the corners and joints with stips of the same material and adhesive. The adhesive for the fabric was put on thick with like thinset or mastic. They made the shower pan out of the same material, but used a thicker adhesive mix. He said you could shower in it as it was and you tiled for looks. The adhesive was water bourne so the fumes should be minimal. If I wer bulding a shower today I would probably use whatever they were using.

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