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Peter River (Whitebus)
Registered Member Username: Whitebus
Post Number: 54 Registered: 4-2009 Posted From: 24.234.166.174
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 10:29 pm: | |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS8fmNCdx-w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JJb9DfurR4 this might be an interesting way to self repair, if you are out in the boonies with a spare. |
Rob A (Otto)
Registered Member Username: Otto
Post Number: 12 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 70.76.113.42
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 12:17 am: | |
oh I wouldn't dare ! where would I get the air ? please tell...if you care !! |
Bill Holstein (Billmoocow)
Registered Member Username: Billmoocow
Post Number: 19 Registered: 5-2009 Posted From: 98.232.218.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 2:38 am: | |
That is rally pretty cool info. A lot of us would carry a compressor too. Now the back up plan.. The blaster that he didnt use.. You need that just in case the regular air filling didnt take place. Need to get one of them to blast the bead into place. |
Iver (Mciv)
Registered Member Username: Mciv
Post Number: 20 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 70.69.131.252
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 4:24 am: | |
That's exactly how the tire store swapped over a couple of my tires on our coach. Quick and easy and no need to re-torque the wheels. |
Peter River (Whitebus)
Registered Member Username: Whitebus
Post Number: 55 Registered: 4-2009 Posted From: 24.234.166.174
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 4:39 am: | |
don't most of us have air brakes? at the bottom of the tank, you have few tap points, you can easily have an adapter to fill tire from it. |
don goldsmith (Bottomacher)
Registered Member Username: Bottomacher
Post Number: 252 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 72.15.86.59
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 9:19 am: | |
An inside dual or a front might be a bit more of a challenge since the bus will have to be blocked up instead of a run-up block. And only a few more tools to carry in the box...I'll leave this one to the adventurers. |
Patrick levenson (Zubzub)
Registered Member Username: Zubzub
Post Number: 94 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 69.159.123.216
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 11:24 am: | |
looks easier than I would have thought. Maybe I only need to carry a spare tire and no wheel. Since you have to jack the front anyhow this would be easier than removing a wheel front or back, but if the bead didn't set then I would have to do the weird fuel air explosion thing which I know nothing about. |
Gary Pasternak (Cessna5354)
Registered Member Username: Cessna5354
Post Number: 69 Registered: 2-2007 Posted From: 71.254.55.120
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 2:03 pm: | |
My guess is that this gentlemen has done this a thousand times before. If you care to watch an adventure, film me trying to emulate this... It can be done witht the correct tools. I will chose to wait for roadside assistance. I understand that in the boonies that might just take a while... |
ED Hackenbruch (Shadowman)
Registered Member Username: Shadowman
Post Number: 117 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 75.216.241.226
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 3:28 pm: | |
let's see....i have a compressor, a spare tire, no wheel, a big hammer, jacks and blocks, so all i need is a couple of tire tools and i can probably do it myself in just a few minutes....ok, maybe a half hour or so by the time i get all of the stuff out and then back in. But still probably faster than waiting for road service. Even have a comealong and straps that i can use to get the tire to seat if needed. Sounds like i need to start looking at yard/estate sales for tire tools. Think i saw some a year or two ago.....shoulda grabbed them. |
Patrick levenson (Zubzub)
Registered Member Username: Zubzub
Post Number: 95 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 69.159.123.216
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 3:40 pm: | |
"I will chose to wait for roadside assistance. I understand that in the boonies that might just take a while..." Now where is the sense of accomplishment in that? Besides imagine how greasy and filthy you would get, it's like being a kid again, wrestling with a tire that weighs as much as you do. |
Len Silva (Lsilva)
Registered Member Username: Lsilva
Post Number: 233 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 24.164.20.23
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 4:19 pm: | |
Perhaps 30 years or so ago, I would have been foolish enough to work that hard to change a tire, on or off the bus. |
Bill 340 (Bill_340)
Registered Member Username: Bill_340
Post Number: 80 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 75.249.224.253
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 8:41 pm: | |
If you dont carry a blaster tank, I have seen a can of ether sprayed in the tire after mounted, then liighted with a lighter. small amount of either, you just need a small blast, same as with the air blast tank,Works but would not recomend it. |
JR Lynch (Njt5047)
Registered Member Username: Njt5047
Post Number: 271 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 71.75.10.27
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 11:07 pm: | |
I would highly recommend a clamp-on air chuck so that one can inflate from the side of the tire. Those suckers will sometimes blow off the rim. Tire shops pretty much inflate in cages. I'd want to be away from the front of the rim while inflating the tire. Checking a dry, beaded tire is different. Not much danger there. I'd sorta like to see that the bead is popped all the way around on both sides. Removing the wheel seems to make good sense. Be careful! |
Buswarrior (Buswarrior)
Registered Member Username: Buswarrior
Post Number: 1601 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 76.68.133.14
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 11:34 pm: | |
What a joy to see a professional at work! The first guy makes it look like a walk in the park. Thanks for sharing! happy coaching! buswarrior |
R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb
Post Number: 726 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 75.210.28.5
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 10:49 am: | |
Yea, he really did ,BW. After watching the second guy I thought the same thing...albeit....the first guy was able to duck under....the second guy was working in really close quarters. I had two outside duals, same side, changed in Portland ME (punctured sidewalls). The guy was sort of a mix of the two on the video, but I was outta there in half an hour. Amazing. RCB |
john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905
Post Number: 1476 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.110.9
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 5:39 pm: | |
One, there is no wheel well to deal with...yeah, your bead might not be loose on the rim like that truck. then you are going to need to break that bead loose from the rim. So now you are screwed and have to remove the rim. Also, that sidewall looked awful floppy. Many places have a guy that specializes in changing tires or contract it out to a tire changing service. They make it look simple, just like these guys. Technique!! Just like watching a couple of guys pouring and finishing concrete. |
Jack Conrad (Jackconrad)
Registered Member Username: Jackconrad
Post Number: 1079 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 71.3.157.139
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 6:32 pm: | |
They replaced a tag tire on our bus that way a couple years ago. With aluminum wheels, I can break the bead by simply stepping on the tire after laying the wheel on the ground and letting the air out of it, much easier than breaking the bead on a steel wheel. |
John and Barb Tesser (Bigrigger)
Registered Member Username: Bigrigger
Post Number: 187 Registered: 9-2007 Posted From: 96.42.7.186
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 7:20 pm: | |
You can break the bead by simply driving on it if you need to. It will eventually come loose from the rim and yes you can reseat the bead using ether and a match ( I have done it myself a lot of times) but a little goes a long way and it is a pretty dangerous procedure. I am with you guys who opt out for getting on a cell phone and getting someone out to do it. In a pinch though, you do what you have to. |
Clint Hunter (Truthhunter)
Registered Member Username: Truthhunter
Post Number: 191 Registered: 1-2009 Posted From: 24.129.235.190
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 10:53 pm: | |
"""just to be clear "when you say drive on the flat, maybe slowly on a duals, on a single you liable to damage the tire sidewall, if the rim hits the hard roadway. If you do both actions, you may need to remove both & throw them in the garbage, so your still unscrewing those wheel nuts. Play bus safe ! |
Tony Gojenola (Akbusnut)
Registered Member Username: Akbusnut
Post Number: 41 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 208.98.151.220
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 11:36 pm: | |
It looked easy alright - beads already broken - old beat up steel wheel - lots of room under a semi trailer, etc. But if you try this on your shiny new polished alcoas they probably won't be so pretty after the tire tools gouge up the edges. tg |