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Don Fairchild (Don_fairchild)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 1:16 pm:   

I am in need of all the 12V71TI engines I can find.
They need to be complete marine engines. I also need to have some blocks, heads and crankshafts.

Thanks

Don
Clint Hunter (Truthhunter)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 1:50 pm:   

Is this going back into a OEM MC 6 restoration or a water craft ?
Clint Hunter (Truthhunter)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 2:04 pm:   

+ + also seeking a 8v-71 T or TA for installation in a late model MC-9 , can be rebuilt or a used runner(verifiable)in need of out-of- frame overhaul. Current engine has lower end bearing failure (guessing, not torn down yet), but the rest is good for parts in our the replacement engine.

> This is for a local bus still in limited commercial use, not yet a private conversions.

+ Thank you kindly for any good leads fellow busnuts.
Don Fairchild (Don_fairchild)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 2:04 pm:   

water craft, crew boat/work boat why, do you want me to put one in your MCI @ around 600hp

Don
Don Fairchild (Don_fairchild)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 2:08 pm:   

I can build you an 8V71TA if you want. What hp are you looking for.

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Clint Hunter (Truthhunter)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 4:07 pm:   

the 12V71 came standard in the MC 6 ,I have been told, in a depowered version; if it was for a bus oem restoration others might be motivated to look farther DF, the nature of the disease !

I shall certainly do the referrals to you when I am able to dig through my notes from Vitoria Island market. There seem to be an abundance from old fishing vessels up there, which we now know are your ideal basket cases, worth shipping.

The 8V71TA was for a rather frugle acquaintance of mine, trying to salvage our usefulness to each other for future joint ventures. His old Jimmmy mechanic does his overhauls, so it is unlikely he would be willing to pay the going rate to another shop to do the work. But I shall pass you on to him.
Thanks Don, well keep in-touch through this thread or you can email me from my profile (snow bound bus picture on the left)
ned sanders (Uncle_ned)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 5:25 pm:   

I bet it is for "HUGGY" We are going to put it on its on two wheels like a cement mixer and run a long drive shaft to drive the wheels.

Bet that will cure my heating problems and cracked heads.

Wonder if i can pull my van behind that rig.

Can you see that going down the road.
David Guglielmetti (Daveg)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 7:07 pm:   

Shoulda put a 12V in a 4501...now there could be running dog!
Don Fairchild (Don_fairchild)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 7:12 pm:   

Ned with the right amount of money anything is possaible.

Clint, We twin turboed one for a charter carrier when I worked at Delaney & Ahlf. Made it a real rocket ship. Thanks for any help you can give.

Don
John and Barb Tesser (Bigrigger)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 8:10 pm:   

Late 60's early 70's was a trucking co out of Minnesota called Sizer(sp?) ran to the west coast had all V-12's, ran like raped apes. Always loved the sound, can't believe there was a bus with those in them!
marvin pack (Gomer)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 9:57 pm:   

Don I had a brother in law that ran 12v's in a tug and they were 6-v's bolted together if that is any help? They used cranks also outof the 6 v's
Gomer
Jim Wilke (Jim Bob) (Pd41044039)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 10:25 pm:   

Gomer, are you thinking of 16V71s? Those are two v-8 blocks with 4 cyl heads. 12V-71 is one v-12 block with two six cyl heads, IIRC.
Clint Hunter (Truthhunter)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 12:07 am:   

d.f. :
without coming across as disrespectful to your proprietary methods/needs (made the snafu with old smokey ur(n)ic & his ceramic treatments, I tend to be like a kid in a candy store when it comes to practical efficiency modifications) but what did you use as a initiator catalyst on them anti-gravity pods on that rocketfied 8V71 TTTA coach or were you referring to installing old school J.A.T.O. bottles ???

+was it MIU ? I assume you fastened the pods to the rims and went with the existing chassis structure; for simplicity & functionality (ain't broken , don't redesign a thing kind of thinking).

I had heard of your army engineers doing Jimmy up to 550 hp at over 1600 ft.lbs. with ceramics for abratics/heat retention for possible use in APC installations(declassified a few years back along with a steam powered conversion Jimmy).

>Sure is the kind of modifications many could use on our old stock 8V71s, even if such a beast can not be warrantied beyond the first full throttle, short of very expensive custom electronic monitoring/fuel control; I would assume?
>But then if the smog regs unfold as the industrialist scamers intend, they might just do like what is being tried in B.C., forced retro-active smog standards from 2007 regs. onto engines post 1998, which has always been deemed by chassis birth-date as well as engine birth-date since the first emission laws of 1969, which unfortunately means such insanity would affect the economics of remodeling the old Jimmy drive with a modern electronic 4 stoke , such as is what a few have already done. Alternatively your modifications would mean we could keep our 8V71 as they are grandfathered if they were cast before 1998, which I again assume is all of them old screamers.

. will dig around for my junk noticed notes from the Vancouver Island recon this weekend & get back to you on any good follow-ups.

...do bus mod. onward bro in wrenching...
marvin pack (Gomer)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 9:53 pm:   

NOPE!! they were 12-v-71's and they had 6 cyl heads on them bolted together somehow. I helped put one side of the heads on,down in the hole. I do know when under normal load they burnt about 45-50 gals, of fuel in an hour.WOW, The fuel tank on the boat was 12,000gal and was fueled every day. Golllieee.

Gomer
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Posted on Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 10:23 pm:   

sorry gomer can't work that way 2 6v71 bolted together would require 4 heads are sure he didn't have the tandem 6-71s ?.I do remember the GMC 401 V6 gas engines in trucks bolted together making it into a v12 using 4 heads. good luck
Tom Christman (Tchristman)
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Posted on Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 2:52 am:   

12V-92TA is two V-6 blocks bolted together with 4-3cylinder heads. Possibly that engine. Good Luck, TomC
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Posted on Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 6:28 am:   

www.boats-and-harbors.com/

Will have a pile of them.

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marvin pack (Gomer)
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Posted on Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 8:54 am:   

Sorry for the confusion!! I meant to say that it was 4 heads off of a 6v-71 series. Confused more? And that is the truth, I will stick to this.

Gomer
Mike Eades (Mike4905)
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Posted on Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 11:19 am:   

Don Try Prevost. They had an articlet 60' bus that used 12v71 in the middle. I have a friend who uses one in the tour industry in Florida. His serial number is # 1. Just a thought. Mike
Ralph Peters (Ralph7)
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Posted on Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 6:56 pm:   

Sent you a PM, and They have tons of parts.
George M. Todd (George_mc6)
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Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 11:14 pm:   

The 12V71 in my bus is one 12V71 block, with two 671 heads, and two 6V71 blowers. I found out the hard way that the charter company used an 8V71 blower drive...
An 8V92TA makes the same power, with much less weight, less smoke, less length, and better fuel economy!
G
Clint Hunter (Truthhunter)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 1:07 am:   

Mctoddsix??? are you saying you have the original jimmy in that old hound ???
whow I finaly, I applogize, please put me in your will with first right of refuseal on that puppy !!!
but I still wouldn't take her on a bet, a real busnut just wouldn't do that, or another fellows wife !
clint hunter (Truthhunter)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 11:23 pm:   

DF , no luck resurrecting that old computer with the information old marine jimmy list on Vancouver Island area, afraid the mother board and the hard drives were just plain old smokeless from that last E.M.pulse incident. Just another good lesson on redundancy in separate locations, plasma fields are just to sneaky for my low tech...

one suggestion is to post on craiglist under Victoria , which covers the entire Island, you also might try Vancouver , thought those scrap jimmys tend to get snatch up pretty quick . Advertising doesn't cost a penny on there, just don't trust any responses that can't prove all the facts
perhaps you will find enough to do a collection run on one of those covet business vacations we-all need to grant ourselves as often as possilbe. The Island is nice and dry until late October,and the tourist disappear by early September, bring a rain coat if your going from November to May though, and one for your bus to. No comment on the big city of Vancouver and most of the lower mainland near it other than too crowed for this kid & bier's dog bus.

...happy bus engine hunting ( yes there is one guy making amphibious coaches, so at least one bus do float without boon docking on a barge )...
Pete/RTS Daytona (Pete_rtsdaytona)
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Posted on Friday, September 04, 2009 - 9:17 am:   

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Detroit-Diesel-12V-71_W0QQitemZ220475344669QQcmdZViewItemQQ ptZLH_DefaultDomain_100?hash=item33555ac71d&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245
john w. roan (Chessie4905)
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Posted on Friday, September 04, 2009 - 5:26 pm:   

You might locate some in the coal stripping areas in PA. Some of those Euclids were just left setting on areas that stripping ceased. Many had V12's or V16's

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