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Peter River (Whitebus)
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Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 12:16 am:   

been reading the archives about sealing off the windows on the side.

I was looking at these plastic window covering that bus wrappers use, specifically ones with little holes that only let in 5% to 20% of the sunlight.

what would be the advantage of using metal sheeting versus these, I heard nightmare stories about electrolysis, and wouldn't you like to look out the window when you are parked, rather than a long solid wall on the side of the bus?

(Message edited by whitebus on December 02, 2009)
FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
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Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 6:34 am:   

If you want air and sunshine the "sewer pipe" conversion is not for you.

A window can simply be insulated with the shrink stuff sold for houses, open window insert plastic between frame and window and shrink in place.

It looks better inside, and, some other methods are better in summer.

An old glass slider frame can have the glass broken out and plastic screening (your color) inserted where the glass was and held in place by pushing in rubber fuel line .

A nicer method is to slice an entire window frame , so it cuts into two trim rings.

Carefully glue (PL GLUE) the screening , or sealing plastic to what will be the inside , of an exterior trim ring.

Advantage , some privacy , both window sections can still slide , and the heat absorbed by the screening is outside the coach.

In winter it cuts on drafts and helps the poor R value of a glass window.

FF
Rob Norgren (Robsedona)
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Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 9:17 am:   

To me It looks great with just the windows I need and want Like a house Small window in the kitchen and no heat source behind My cabinets and Refrigerator and closet no windows will ever be as good as solid walls and insulating and every room has plenty of windows to see out and light to come in. I like to keep the Heat out in summer and the heat in in the winter. Just My Way!
Dave Hartshorne (Yeeolde48)
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Posted on Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 11:44 pm:   

Pete, I wanted to keep the windows in my Scenicruiser and not sheet over the sides. I had a couple of cracked panels, so decided to apply film over the outside. We used the 90% dark black, it hides the cracks and makes the bus look a lot nicer. Being on the outside of the glass, they deteriorate faster than they would if applied on the inside, but I can remove and re-apply the whole bus in under a day, and a roll of film is less than $50. I replace them every 3 years. One of these days I will replace all the glass with a dark tinted glass, or possibly Peninsular windows, but have other things to spend money on these days.
Dave
Gus Causbie (Gusc)
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Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 2:07 am:   

Dave,

The SC looks great with that tint.

Question, did you use the type that is supposed to go on the inside?

I started to do that because it is impossible to reach some of mine inside but I hated to waste all that work if it wouldn't do the job.

Once every 3 years I can handle.
Dave Hartshorne (Yeeolde48)
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Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 11:07 am:   

Hi Gus, Yes I used the type that normally goes on the inside. I bought a 100 foot role of heavy weight tint off ebay. Applied in the normal way with soapy water. When I remove it, I heat it with a heat gun (Actually one of the wife's old hair dryers), and the film comes off with most of the glue. Then I soften the remaining glue with Goo-Gone, and scrape it off with a razor blade. I go over the glass one more time with Goo-Gone then finally with a new razor blade and towel just before I apply the new film. I re-filmed last year, and took one afternoon to strip them all, than started applying the film the following morning and was done by early afternoon. My bus unfortunately sits outside so the windows see the hot weather every day, I was told the film would probably last 5 years plus if your bus is inside when your not on the road.
Cheers,
Dave
R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
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Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 7:17 pm:   

Interesting, Dave. And thanx for the "blow by blow" description.

I watched a "pro" do the inside rear window of our coach and thought I might be able to do it myself, when needed...then, a few days later, as I was installing the cabinets around it, I saw just how bad the job was....that he had done!...the "curves" were where the problems were, for the most part. Decided I would not attempt it.

Your encouraging remarks might...(might:-)) make me re-think it.

RCB
Kyle Brandt (Kyle4501)
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Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 12:43 pm:   

the Peninsula Glass side windows have a vertical divider bar - not slanted like the originals.
Some may not notice the different look - but others don't care for it. . . .

I like the idea of external screens, but locating spare window frames for a PD4501 will require some creativity since they are unique to the PD4501.
However, it should be possible to fabricate custom outside screen holders that look good.

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