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Jeff (Jeff) (68.10.101.219)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 8:40 am: | |
I looked at the website for Kool Seal and now I am confused. They make several different products. I thought there was only one. If you applied Kool Seal to your bus roof, which Kool Seal roof coating did you use? How did you apply it? What prep work did you do? Thanks!! Jeff "Take Another Road" <-- Jimmy Buffett Rustless not Busless in Buckroe 1988 TMC RTS-06 da Bubba |
Pete (64.12.96.235)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 8:58 am: | |
Jeff, I am an applicator of industrial roof coatings..you want the White Elastomeric roof coating. Preasurewash the existing bus roof, remove any silicone thats there..cause the Elastomeric will NOT stick to and silicone.. There a trowell grade patch cement from Koolseal. You can use that for any seams that need to doctored up or any problem areas. If you cant get the trowell grade do to a roofing supply house and ask for a Trypolimer caulk. The trypolimer can be painted and will keep the flex you need. You can roll the Elastomeric on, paint it with a brush or spray it..but you need an industrial spray machine..a wagner or a smaller spray machine will not do it..Make sure it isnt going to rain and the rig is out in the sun to cure it Pete |
Joel Lanstra (Joel) (209.204.150.79)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 10:21 am: | |
Jeff & Pete, Have you looked at Thermal-Coat http://www.capstonemfg.com/index.html. I have been looking for users and opinions. Joel |
Pete (64.12.96.235)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 3:48 pm: | |
Joel..never heard of them..I have used Uniflex..which is the industrial division of Koolseal.. Most coatings unless solvant born are about the same, Roman/Hass makes all the solids for the industry |
HondoJoe04 (66.74.50.62)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 6:05 pm: | |
This soft coating on the roof of my bus is a dirt magnet. Dirt STICKS well & takes some serious scrubbing 2-4 times a year just to look fair. At least it is not slippery when I get up there to scrub like heck with mucho soap & water. I rolled mine on so the extra texture doesn't help either. Even if it was sprayed smoother I think I would have to do what I need to do now, and that's paint & seal it better to aid in cleaning. I would not consider a Kool Seal type elastomer again on the roof but am curious to know if the Thermal Coat may be any better as far as cleaning & dirt attraction goes. Joe |
John Noonan (Silvereagle) (24.136.93.153)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 6:34 pm: | |
THERMAL COAT Can be sealed and clear coated . It is also smoother than KOOL SEAL to start with. They have a Q&A site at: http://www.capstonemfg.com/FAQ.html |
jmaxwell (66.42.92.7)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 7:43 pm: | |
The ceramic thermal coats also discolor and stain from dirt, even with the clearcoats. It also looks like a major orange-peel paint job (not very good, in other words). On the plus side, most that use it swear by it. I don't doubt its' ability to seal the roof, I do doubt the thermal claims made, and it does not make a very appealing finish. |
FAST FRED (65.58.187.84)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 5:35 am: | |
I used the best marine paint ( the good old stuff with LEAD in it) and a product called Insuladd. Doesn't work! While there might be some insulating value to the creamic beads the thickness of 2 coats is mighty thin when air is R7 per inch. Problem is the roof looks as if it was covered with white 200 grit sand paper. This attracts dirt so quickly that any insulating value (if there ever was any ) is completly lost to the hot dark color. White on White , nice & smooth seems best. The trailer goo is best for "Leaky Teakys " that need roof repair , as the goo chalks and leaves huge white streaks down the sides of the coach. FAST FRED |
CoryDaneRTSIIIL (4.17.253.40)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 12:37 am: | |
Alrighty Gentlemen Lets see the question was which product of Kool Seal to buy.... KoolSeal makes a variety of roof sealing products, I purchased mine at Camping World, and they carry several types, the difference seems to be only how thin or how thick the product is. I used the Commercial quality Kool Seal, it is thick, applied with a roller and stops the leaks. Kool Seal also is a great reflector of heat in the summer, I could not beleive the temp difference even though only the first coat. I have not had a terrible problem with the white surface getting dirty, never black and a simple scrub with mild soapy waters takes care of that problem. I cleaned mine about 3 years after first application and the roof has not leaked since its application in 89. If you use this product for what it is intended, I can't say enough good things about it. It is a elastic sealant and once applied, it protects forever. A very nice by product of this is it is bright white and it reflects the heat of summer. I would not be afraid to recommend this to anyone. cd |
Pete (152.163.188.227)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 6:57 am: | |
Yeaaaaa what Cory said |
Ace (24.28.44.126)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 7:55 am: | |
I agree with Cory as well1 I have used it on our coach roof and it works like it is supposed to. We noticed a difference as soon as we applied it down in Central Florida! Ace |
Jeff (163.230.7.4)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 8:51 am: | |
Cory, How many gallons did you need to cover the roof of your RTS? Lowe's has Kool Seal in their sales ads here in Virginia this week. Will have to go and get some even though I still need to cut the holes for the roof vents and A/C. Little holes like the Dish mount and the local TV antenna should not be a problem. I have two sheets of Stainless already cut out and punched holes to reinforce the roof of my RTS. I will cut out the openings for the emergency exits and place the stainless over them. Really do not think I need it and it is over kill. I do like to be safe than sorry. I've been on my roof several times already mounting the front cap and covering the rear roof vent to the old Air Handler opening. I'm no little person!! The RTS is built like a M1A2 Abrams tank. Thanks for the input, You All!! Jeff "Take Another Road" <-- Jimmy Buffett Rustless not Busless in Buckroe 1988 TMC RTS-06 da Bubba |
pete (152.163.188.227)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 6:11 am: | |
Jess get 2 5's that will give you 3 or 4 coats..I have 6 or 8 on mine but I do it for a living.. Pete |
Pete (152.163.188.227)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 6:12 am: | |
oooops Jess is my kid Jeff..sorry |
Jeff (Jeff) (163.230.7.4)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 11:09 am: | |
I've been called worse, just never call me late for dinner & we will be OK. I'm the youngest of four, I'm use to it! I could understand my parents yelling roll call and get me confused with Jack & Jesse, my brothers, but my sister Cathy is / was a different story. Jeff "Take Another Road" <-- Jimmy Buffett Rustless not Busless in Buckroe 1988 TMC RTS-06 da Bubba |
Quest (198.29.191.148)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 10:54 pm: | |
As I have also had experience with this product and some additional ideas will help keep her dry. Any seams that might move, seams around vents or anything that "grew out of the roof", they have a cloth like material, only about 2 or 3 inches wide on a roll. You saturate this and install over the seam. You give it a couple of coats untill it is smooth or close to it. the cloth allows the sealant to make small movements and not damage the roof treatment. Another trick I was taught was to raise the air con 3/4 of an inch. you can use red wood, about 1 1/2 or 2 inches deep, make a 14" x 14" frame and place where the air con seal will sit. Next you will seal the seam with the kool seal, I actually ran the seal up and over the flat surface of the red wood also. Once cured, I placed the air con on it. The theary is that even if the air con seals fail, water wont get in the coach. What can I say, never leaked in mine either. good luck. q |