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David Anderson (66.90.197.174)

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Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 10:56 pm:   

Anyone have an oil temperature gauge? I'm thinking about installing one on my 6v92. If I do where should I put the sender, and what range should the gauge be?

David Anderson
Jayjay (198.81.26.108)

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Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:19 am:   

David, you should put it in the oil pan or off the oil filter, there is frquently a spare plug near there to install one. It'll scare your socks off to find that the oil temp. runs about 275F to 350F. Your biggest problem is to find one that will read all the way to the front of a bus. HTH...JJ
two dogs (66.90.217.74)

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Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 11:55 am:   

USUALLY..THE SAME PLACE YOUR ENGINE OIL PRESSUE SENDING UNIT (USUALY PIPE THREAD) TEE OFF THAT & GO TO AN AUTO SUPPLY (SUGGEST NAPA) FOR THE GUAGE & SENDING UNIT
John Feld (150.199.209.26)

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Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 12:54 pm:   

Any semi-truck dealer parts dept. has what you need. My trucks had oil, tranny and axle gauges, all electric senders, just run the wire to dash.

John 4104
Henry R. Bergman, Jr. (Henryofcj) (209.210.116.27)

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Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 3:27 pm:   

I might suggest to run the sender on the bottom of the oil pan. This is where most of them are located.

Normal engine oil temp range should run between 180 and 220 degrees F, depending upon the application, duty cycle and season.

All respect due, if your temp is running much higher than this routinely, then something is very WRONG. Best of luck. Henry of CJ.
David Anderson (66.90.197.235)

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Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 6:48 pm:   

Thanks, guys

VDO has a gauge #310012 that goes to 300 degrees.

They have a sender #323060 that is 1/2-14 NPT with a spade terminal.

These should work. There are a couple of 1/2" plugs on the side of my oil pan that I can insert the sender.

David Anderson
Jayjay (198.81.26.108)

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Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 1:06 am:   

Henry, I don't know what the temps are on my DD8V71,(Water temp is 185) but on several automobiles I've owned with 14psi press radiator caps and 220 F thermostats the oil temp routinely went from 250F in winter to 345F in the summer. Water temp was about 230F. This seems normal for many newer cars. They use a high press radiator cap to create a higher boiling point. The new engines run very hot to make then more fuel efficient. 2002 Camaro runs at 230F! A 50/50 antifreeze mix and a 14 psi cap creates a 252F boiling point!...JJ
RJ Long (Rjlong) (24.127.74.29)

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Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 2:03 am:   

JJ -

They also run 'em hotter for emission control, too!

I still have a Chevy Corvair Corvan (Ralph Nader's favorite!) that has both a cylinder head temp gauge and an oil temp gauge on it. Hottest I've ever seen both read is just under 400 for the head temp, and just over 225 for oil, and that's climbing the Siskiyous on I-5 in 100 degree weather. Most flat-land running around, regardless of ambient temps, were in the 250-300 and 180-200 range. . .

I seem to remember that when oil reaches the 230-250 degree range, it starts breaking down, but that is probably "dated" info. Just know we used to try to keep the 'Vair's oil temps under 250 to keep the turbo's bearing from coking up. . .

FWIW,

RJ
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Fresno CA
FAST FRED (67.75.110.14)

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Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 5:55 am:   

If you have the patience of JOB , the Murphy Co makes mechanical gages that can be had with coach sized cap tube sizes.

With simple mechanical guts here is no loss from poor grounds or any mis accuracy from the long wire runs.

But its a real bear to feed the tubing all the way from front to rear , in a secure place with out damage.

The Murphys can be had with user adjustable Hi and or Low contacts that will ring an alarm if your preset gets reached.


Great ,if you havent developed a good IFR scan & drive looking out the window as most do.

There were alarms on the coach when new , so their value is known.

Murphys can also be used on noisemakers , and have an "Auto Secure" system that will stop the engine if desired.

A full Murphy setup probably costs less than a new circuit board for an ONHO , and at least tells you why it shut down, and can be easily bypassed for engine troubble shooting.

Have used them on bots for decades and they work very reliably, and seem quite accurate.

FAST FRED
Johnny (63.159.196.234)

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Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:24 pm:   

I'm with the c onsensus--in the oil pan, & watch it on long climbs in hot weather, especially with a turbo.

Hottest I ever saw an oil temp gauge was in my wife's Grand national: running 80-85MPH up a long highway grade, on a 85-90 degree day with the A/C going, the gauge pegged at 300 degrees, still climbing. I'm so glad she uses Mobil 1 synthetic.
Henry R. Bergman, Jr. (Henryofcj) (209.210.116.228)

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Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 6:21 pm:   

Isn't it amazine how warm (hot?) the new cars run? Had we seen these routine temps 30 years ago, we would have all probably croaked.

My mighty 1981 VW Rabbit Diesel (all 52 hp!) never gets above 190 F water and 210 F oil. Those extra handy gages come in handy.

Rumor has it the next real generation of heavy duty Diesel truck engines will run around 300 to 350 F using synthetic 5-30 oil as a lubricant...

...AND coolant. No water at all. Wow! How times fly and temps soar. My Crown runs around 170 F water and around 200 F oil. I'm very lucky. Henry of CJ.

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