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John Lawson (146.114.111.80)

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Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 4:44 pm:   

I am shopping for a bus and am thinking about purchasing a 4106. How hard is it to find parts for them if I breakdown on the road? Is there anything I should beware of? Any advice?
two dogs (67.30.23.15)

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Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 5:14 pm:   

Buffalo's are
nice looking buses....just check REAL good for rust & find out where it spent it's life ,not in the northeast I hope..
Frank Allen (205.188.208.39)

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Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 6:32 pm:   

A 4106 is not a buffalo, it is a straight 35 ft, just look for rust and look under the back at the bulhead for cracks, also look up in the wheel wells in the rear for missing fasterners, and the floor needs to be in good shape look at all that for problems
Frank allen
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John Feld (150.199.209.39)

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Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 7:26 pm:   

Parts should not be any more of a problem than any other 'bus'. You may not find the part in TIMBUCKTOO, Alaska, but all it takes is a phone call and over-night service.

Parts for the GMC 8V71 series engine are still stocked by many dealers nation-wide.

John 4104
John Lawson (66.60.153.145)

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Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 7:29 pm:   

Thanks Frank, two dogs. How do you trace where it came from, other than asking the previous owner?
John Lawson (66.60.153.145)

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Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 7:32 pm:   

Thanks John. The stuff I have been reading has warned about buying an older bus because of availability of parts.
two dogs (67.30.23.18)

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Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 8:28 pm:   

John...

Maybe R.J. can help....ya' need the VIN...HEY LONG WHERE ARE YA'
Doug (68.83.22.146)

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Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 8:43 pm:   

the myth about lack of parts comes from those who don't know where to look

as far as I know this is what is not available new for my 04

rear glass, driver and door OEM window rubber and the thermostat housing and new skin

mechanically just about everything is available new or rebuilt
RJ Long (Rjlong) (24.127.74.29)

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Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 9:51 pm:   

I'm here, Dos Dogs. . . Just send in the VIN!

RJ
two dogs (67.30.23.115)

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Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 10:18 pm:   

there ya' go John send the guy above this the vin number
Tom Connolly (Tomconnolly) (64.58.196.218)

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Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 11:07 pm:   

Doug, here's where you get those new body panels (skins)
http://www.1800intlbus.com/index.htm

Tom C
FAST FRED (67.75.106.223)

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Posted on Friday, September 26, 2003 - 5:04 am:   

"driver and door OEM window rubber"

Hang on a couple of months ,Doug, I'm working on a deal to get this manufactured in small (500ft ) quantities.

Will use what I need to rebuild 2 windows and post the rest on this fine board.

FAST FRED
Doug (68.82.242.218)

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Posted on Friday, September 26, 2003 - 12:21 pm:   

Thanks FF.

Tom, true the link you provided will give me some new skin......however it isn't OEM Style. The 04 had rolled fluting where the new stuff is bent.
Doug (68.82.242.218)

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Posted on Friday, September 26, 2003 - 12:22 pm:   

FF, I can make you a trade or partial trade as I have some of the latch hardware for the split pane windows.


Let me know as I definitley need some would like to do my D windows as well
John Lawson (66.60.153.145)

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Posted on Friday, September 26, 2003 - 5:14 pm:   

Thanks again two dogs. As soon as I have a VIN, I let RJ know.
John Lawson (66.60.153.145)

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Posted on Friday, September 26, 2003 - 5:24 pm:   

Another question, same vein. I know to look for rust and smoke. What else?
two dogs (67.30.23.117)

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Posted on Friday, September 26, 2003 - 5:47 pm:   

look at the post right above this..If it "looks" like some shadetree has been maintaining it or looks like it's been "patched-up"..wires hanging ,etc., painted with a brush.(caution)......let the owner drive it first,watch him shift it,buses got to be double clutched,if he has trouble driveing it ,or shifting it,you will also..back off 50 feet,look down the sides,like you would look down a pool cue,is the bus "warped"...check front tires for wear pattern,inside wearing,outside wearing,tires "cupping"...when driveing ,does it want to stay on the road,or is it trying to go somewhere..all DD smoke..alittle when starting,a little more when you are climbing a hill& have the coals poured to it,all DD leak a little,don't let that scare you,(kinda like a Harley)
John Lawson (66.60.153.145)

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Posted on Friday, September 26, 2003 - 9:58 pm:   

Thanks two dogs, that will help alot. The one I'm looking at tomorrow, the owner won't be able to drive it. He has become crippled, which is why he is selling it. But that is a good way to tell at least how it's latest owner drove it. I gotta get an ice pick.
John Lawson (66.60.153.145)

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Posted on Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 11:26 am:   

Another question (should I start another thread?) I've seen tires listed by % of useful life left (I think). How is that determined?
two dogs (67.30.23.42)

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Posted on Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 12:45 pm:   

if a tread depth is 3/4" inch deep when new & has 3/8 " now it's 50% used....age matters also, look for cracks in sidewall ...if a tire is over 7 years old ,getting "questionable" as far as use.
( what state are you in)
Tom Caffrey (Pvcces) (65.74.65.3)

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Posted on Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 10:09 pm:   

I think that the percent of useful life is figured after the minimum legal tread depth. At the least, that ought to be 2/32 on the drivers and 4/32 on the fronts.

It doesn't affect the percentage much, but it really shows up when the tires are getting well worn. Heavy duty tires have considerable variation in the tread depth when new, so you need to know the actual depth that they started life at in order to figure it out.

For what it's worth.

Tom Caffrey PD4106-2576
Suncatcher
Jayjay (198.81.26.104)

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Posted on Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 10:27 pm:   

International Bus Parts in Apopka, FL has rolled body panels...in stainless too. 407-880-9700, ask for Rich. I helped install some on an '06 last spring. Cheers...JJ

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