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| ChuckS (Chucks) (66.167.142.168)
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It's becoming evident that the topics that get ya'll excited have to do with mechanicals, so this will probably bore you, but I haven't seen it covered anywhere. 99% of all the motorhome conversions I've seen have the bathroom junk right behind the galley. There are several obvious reasons - Mama wants a real bedroom in the back, all the plumbing is straight down under in the back bay, you want a delineation between front room & back, perhaps more headroom, guests can go to the loo at night without disturbing the occupants in the 'marital chambers', etc. I think the _only_ conversions I've seen which have a rear restroom are the 'day coaches'. Well I think for my needs that is the way I want to explore. Other than the obvious (plumbing is more of a hassle, etc.) are there any reasons why this is a reeeeeaaally bad idea? Would pipes run over the driveshaft/differential into back bay? Any caveats other than 'dumbo, get a grip'? ;) | ||
| two dogs (66.90.218.115) Rating: N/A |
I 'thought about it...when I was takeing the bus latrine out..if you do away with your bus air like most people ..ya' got enough room for a blackwater tank and maybe freshwater | ||
| Scott Whitney (66.82.9.12) Rating: N/A |
Plumbing can be worked out eitherway - just have to locate your black tank under the toilet. I think the biggest reason against a rear bathroom is that your guests have to pass thru the master bedroom to use the head. Maybe a clever use of a side-aisle would be a work-around, but a side aisle passing the master bedroom would make it pretty tight. Recommend mocking it up in cardboard first to make sure you are happy with the layout. Scott | ||
| RJ Long (Rjlong) (24.127.74.29)
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Hey Scott - Wasn't that guy who had the Crown next to you in SLO putting the head right up front, behind the driver?? RJ PD4106-2784 Fresno CA | ||
| Scott Whitney (66.82.9.47) Rating: N/A |
Yeah, he had one of the 10 wheeler super Crowns that he and his firefighter buddies were making into a party bus. They put the bathroom right behind the driver. Then they cut the rear storage compartment out and dropped the floor down, thereby making a drop-down party booth in the back of the bus with seats all the way around it. A full bar was slated to go along one side. S'pose just goes to show the design of a bus is all in how you intend to use it! Scott | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary) (209.128.79.46)
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Some of us are using Marine heads, removing the requirement for having the blackwater tank under the potty. Also, Bluebird Wanderlodges had rear baths as an available option. Gary | ||
| William R. Graf (Billfrombrazil) (63.169.30.174)
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We have our potty located right between the two fender wells in the rear of our Crown 10 wheeler. We have the shower on top of the fender well ahead of it and the rear fender well is divided between the head on one side of a divider and a sewing table with drawers beneath and a place for my accordion. Our double bed sits cross ways behind that which works okay for me since I am athletic enough to hop over my wife into bed. On the other side we have a large closet with two drawers on top of each of the fender wells, long clothes hang in the space between them. There is also a very small sink at the front of the forward fender well on that side. I had to plumb the stool into the blackwater tank in much the same way as a house, going along just above the springs on that side and into the tank located in the rear bay. The toilet is a Sealand and the only thing we have to be a little careful of is to run a little extra water down when the solids go. We don't put much paper down it, but I don't think most RV'ers do. I did find out after I had installed it all that the code book specifies going into the top of a blackwater tank only, rather than in the side. It was done already though and it works so I don't plan to change it. BTW I am 5' 8" and my wife has to sit on a shower bench in the shower so the height isn't a problem. | ||
| ChuckS (Chucks) (66.167.142.168)
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Good thought on the marine head. It's basically a config with a pump, either manual or powered, that sends the material overboard (in a vessel) or to a tank, right? And way more expensive I'm sure but it might be worth it. | ||
| ChuckS (Chucks) (66.167.142.168)
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OK, now I'll have to reveal a bit more newbieness... (Man, I hate doing that ;) In the short term, is it like completely impractical to just use what's there already? Maybe with a bigger tank? I know, tacky and too 'bus-like' but I kinda like all that stainless! Another thought - what about somehow sealing the interior of the entire bus RR, install a shower head, rig up some kinda pan on the floor, and viola, you've got everything in 10 ftsq! No, I'm not a hillbilly, but I just _hate_ wasting precious floorspace with something so um, mundane as the bathroom. | ||
| ChuckS (Chucks) (66.167.142.168)
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And I'm quite sure the future maiden of the cabin will have strong feelings otherwise. But I could wait until that day and then rip out all the factory stuff and fix it up 'normal'. Bad planning, you'll all say... | ||
| David & Lorna Schinske (Davidschinske) (64.24.236.80)
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Here is something that might help. I don't know who made it but while I was at the Atlanta Veterans Hospital with my Dad. He got his Doctor to show me a cool shower/toilet/vanity setup. This thing was about 4 ft wide 18" deep and 36 high. It had a bar sink in the top on the right hand side, under the sink area was a swing out toilet which strongly resembled an Rv/Marine toilet but SS. A hand held shower was on the left hand side in a compartment that was about 12" wide. It was probably more than what my byus shell cost but you could probably find the e-mail for them. I tried but the website link was down from this site http://www.appc1.va.gov/directory/guide/facility.asp?ID=38&map=1&divisionId=1&stateid=GA If you would like I can have my Dad ask next time he goes in for his Heart Clinic in DEC or JAN. Let me know. Lorna | ||
| ChuckS (Chucks) (66.167.142.168)
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That's the sort of innovation I'm trying to employ. Many thanks, I would like to know the Mfgr, if convenient. | ||
| David & Lorna Schinske (Davidschinske) (64.24.236.72)
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When My Dad goes back to Atlanta VA, I will probably be with him. I will find out the name and post it here. Wasn't too interested at the time due to the bad news, we had been told he wouldn't make it to Christmas. That MIGHT have changed. The VA is driving us all nuts! | ||
| R Johnstone (Chilebrew) (67.202.13.98)
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Monogram Industries used to make a one-piece sink-shower-toilet unit. Mine was re-circulating "Monomatic." I think they also had a holding tank model. Toilet bowl folded down for use, up for flush and rinse. Great for a pick-up camper. Monogram no longer makes; now supplies multi-$$ units for aircraft. Have also seen similar in railroad compartments and roomettes. Look for a 40 or 50 year old camper to take out. | ||
| ChuckS (Chucks) (66.167.142.168)
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Lorna, thank you for the offer, but you will have many more important things to be concerned with during your time there. I do appreciate it, but that's just a little too much multi-tasking to ask anyone to deal with. My best to you and your Dad, Chuck | ||
| Henry R. Bergman, Jr. (Henryofcj) (63.224.197.10)
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Great fresh insights on interior plans. On my '74 Crown 10-wheeler I had planned on putting the head just in front of the rear axle(s) four wheel wells. Was going to relocate the two starting batterys from the driver's side in front of the rear wheels to the passenger's side along side the Cummins Big Cam. Then...was going to install a sunken shower where the batterys first were increasing the headroom in the shower to something more than 66 inches. Also was going to use a marine toilet with a mini holding tank intergal with it, then pump the black water into the black tank mounted INSIDE the coach... ...over top the rear wheel wells. Anyway, Crown Super Coaches do not really lend themselves into converting into that ultimate driver's motorhome. CROWNS FOREVER!!!  |