| Author | Message | ||
| Kat Battersby (Ramblinruby)
Registered Member Username: Ramblinruby Post Number: 22 Registered: 5-2009 Posted From: 66.18.163.175  Rating: |
Hi All, I am about to replace my tires and would like to know which ones you all recommend. I have read that Toyos are good and reasonably priced. I am in NM presently and only have a few dealer choices available. I am looking for 11-22.5's. Thanks, Kat | ||
| ned sanders (Uncle_ned)
Registered Member Username: Uncle_ned Post Number: 99 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 184.39.76.39 Rating: N/A |
Just replaced the Mich. low profiles with Hankook 11r24.5. the ride is great and the taller tire really makes "Huggy" cruise better. uncle ned and the price was right | ||
| Teresa (Happycamperbrat)
Registered Member Username: Happycamperbrat Post Number: 101 Registered: 5-2009 Posted From: 71.105.176.87 Rating: N/A |
I will check when I get home.... But I have the 11r22.5s They are Firstone and I "think" they are GS or something? I bought them last June and they were date stamped May 2010 so they were only one month old when I bought them (yea me!) As I recall they were about $250 each (mounted and balanced) | ||
| Brian Evans (Bevans6)
Registered Member Username: Bevans6 Post Number: 24 Registered: 5-2009 Posted From: 65.92.54.2 Rating: N/A |
I'm having very good results with my Firestone FS 560 Plus all position tires. Very happy with them. Brian | ||
| Kat Battersby (Ramblinruby)
Registered Member Username: Ramblinruby Post Number: 23 Registered: 5-2009 Posted From: 66.18.163.175 Rating: N/A |
Thanks for the info! Brian....what kind of pricing did you get on those all position tires? Teresa....if you could let me know the brand that would be great! Uncle Ned....How right was the price...lol. Thanks, Kat | ||
| Teresa (Happycamperbrat)
Registered Member Username: Happycamperbrat Post Number: 102 Registered: 5-2009 Posted From: 71.105.176.87 Rating: N/A |
Im still at work, but after seeing Brian's post it is ringing a BIG bell in my head (or maybe that is just the empty rattling in it going on?). Im thinking I have the same ones as Brian..... | ||
| Teresa (Happycamperbrat)
Registered Member Username: Happycamperbrat Post Number: 103 Registered: 5-2009 Posted From: 173.25.102.41 Rating: N/A |
I just got home, they are FS 560 Radial all position Firestone | ||
| Kat Battersby (Ramblinruby)
Registered Member Username: Ramblinruby Post Number: 24 Registered: 5-2009 Posted From: 66.18.163.175 Rating: N/A |
Hi Teresa, Many thanks! I will look into them. Kat | ||
| Gus Causbie (Gusc)
Registered Member Username: Gusc Post Number: 1287 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 72.161.174.179  Rating: N/A |
I have six TOYO M122 11R22.5 14 ply tires on my 4104 with about 43,000 miles on them with no sign of appreciable wear. They are all position but I think they have been superseded by a different number. These are trick tires but have a great ride. They were priced at considerably less than $300 when I bought them but anything made with oil has now jumped way up in price. | ||
| Dave Walker (Chrome_dome)
Registered Member Username: Chrome_dome Post Number: 246 Registered: 3-2010 Posted From: 75.210.238.128  Rating: N/A |
We have 12RX22.5 will the 11x24.5 or 22.5 fit on the same rims and will the weight rating work still aren't they for lighter vehicals? We have been quoted $1,150.00 mounted for 2 new tires 12Rx22.5 and mounting 2 others I have new 12Rx22.5 Dave | ||
| Derrick Thomas (Thomasinnv)
Registered Member Username: Thomasinnv Post Number: 12 Registered: 10-2010 Posted From: 69.19.14.17 Rating: N/A |
22.5 and 24.5 rims/tires are not interchangeable. the 22.5 or 24.5 refers to the rim size. | ||
| Teresa (Happycamperbrat)
Registered Member Username: Happycamperbrat Post Number: 104 Registered: 5-2009 Posted From: 173.25.102.41 Rating: N/A |
The 12r22.5 and 11r24.5 hold more weight with that extra bit of rubber then the 11r22.5 Off the top of my head I dont remember what the weight difference is, but if your coach is light and/or stripped then the 11r22.5 really make sense. When building or if your bus has a lot of wood, granite, marble or you carry a lot of people then the larger tires are recomended. From what I have been told handling, braking, etc. becomes a problem with having too much weight for the tires.... so proceed with caution | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 1480 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 69.19.14.25  Rating: N/A |
Some of Yokahama are low cost as well as having low rolling resistance , and they will last till replaced. IT is not worth the cost of Michilen low rolling resistance tires for a bus camper as the annual mileage is far too low. FF | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 1482 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 69.19.14.25 Rating: N/A |
Buying services can lower the cost per tire a lot. Here is a lift from a truck board on pricing. I just used PDCA again to get the new wide single "energy"s. They said the program is not going away with the merger, as it is very successful. I saved around $200/tire over the cash price, but I they asked me not to advertise the price. Call 866-354-7322 if you want a free quote from them. Their best savings are on the Michelin wide singles in particular, but they cover other brands as well. BE Wary of install costs when using this setup! FF | ||
| Kat Battersby (Ramblinruby)
Registered Member Username: Ramblinruby Post Number: 25 Registered: 5-2009 Posted From: 66.18.163.175 Rating: N/A |
Thanks for all of the input. I have looked into the Firestone tires and found pricing anywhere from $261 all the way up to $351 per tire. I will check the Toyos too as I have heard good things about them. My coach weighs in dry at about 25,000 lbs and I have 11R22.5's on it right now. They are too old to ride safely on and I am planning an extended tour around the US so I need good tires that will last. Thanks again for all of the info. Kat | ||
| ned sanders (Uncle_ned)
Registered Member Username: Uncle_ned Post Number: 100 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 184.39.76.39 Rating: N/A |
Just checked the invoice for Hankook ah12 24.5s' brought to me and installed $2,372 tax, disposal fee, and every thing else they add to tire prices uncle ned | ||
| john w. roan (Chessie4905)
Registered Member Username: Chessie4905 Post Number: 2051 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.58.71.157  Rating: N/A |
Did you check on recapped Bandags or Michelins? (for the rear). They even look like new tires now and are decent quality with a couple of tread profiles available. | ||
| Gus Causbie (Gusc)
Registered Member Username: Gusc Post Number: 1288 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 173.202.26.5 Rating: N/A |
I'm assuming that 11R22.5s are the original size (actually 1100x20 bias ply) which with the lighter weight of a conversion are probably more than adequate. No point in riding on oversize, more expensive and heavier tires. There is too little clearance in the wheel wells even with original size tires! | ||
| Kat Battersby (Ramblinruby)
Registered Member Username: Ramblinruby Post Number: 26 Registered: 5-2009 Posted From: 66.18.163.175 Rating: N/A |
Hi Gus, I currently have 11R22.5's on my coach and they are fine. Just old...lol. I need new steering tires for sure and might be able to get recaps for the rear. Thanks for that tip John! Kat | ||
| Buswarrior (Buswarrior)
Registered Member Username: Buswarrior Post Number: 2062 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 174.91.145.66  Rating: N/A |
Tires are unique and different. There is no set weight for a certain tire size, they are all different between brands and models. Same for revolutions per mile (gearing and speedometer) and everything else, plies, speed rating, etc. You can't just compare tires according to size. Happily, we have the internet and detailed manufacturer and dealer websites in order to be sure we are comparing equivalent tires. And, read what the tire re-manufacturers have to say, they have warranties. Goodyear, Michelin and Bandag are just three of them that have whole lines of tires with fresh rubber on them, with considerable savings. Pay attention when Gus says we have only so much space: Between different tires, same size, different tire manufacturer/model, I have first hand observations that some will just rub a bit of the suspension in an MC8, some won't, at full wheel lock, depending on the shape of the tire shoulder. There are slight variations. Certainly don't go wider than your coach manufacturer intended without careful inspection with a committed tire dealer. happy coaching! buswarrior | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 1484 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 66.82.162.16 Rating: N/A |
Many trucks are using the Yoko 617 Steer as they are fairly cheap and do have the same low rolling resistance of the big buck Michelins. FF | ||
| Kat Battersby (Ramblinruby)
Registered Member Username: Ramblinruby Post Number: 28 Registered: 5-2009 Posted From: 66.18.163.175 Rating: N/A |
Thanks FF...I'll check those too. My local tire dealer quoted me over $400 per tire for the Firestones and no balancing in that price. Buswarrior...I fully comprehend what you are saying which is why I came here to seek good feedback. Many Thanks, Kat | ||
| David Evans (Dmd)
Registered Member Username: Dmd Post Number: 573 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 74.47.116.15  Rating: N/A |
i am having good luck with Bridgestones. I bought a trailer tire this morning and they told me i just beat the April first price increase. | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 1487 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 66.82.9.58 Rating: N/A |
www.counteractbalancing.com/ This is better than Equal, and far less expensive than centrimatics. FF | ||
| Kat Battersby (Ramblinruby)
Registered Member Username: Ramblinruby Post Number: 32 Registered: 5-2009 Posted From: 66.18.163.175 Rating: N/A |
Looking at it now...TY | ||
| RJ Long (Rjlong)
Registered Member Username: Rjlong Post Number: 1798 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 71.195.124.20  Rating: N/A |
Kat - 11R22.5 is now the most popular truck tire available, so lots to choose from. Buswarrior brought out good points, so I'll add something to that: The original specs for your coach called for tires that turned 495 revs per mile. Tires that turn more revs/mile will use more fuel. Tires that turn less revs/mile will have the opposite effect. NOW, If you have a V-730 with the 11R22.5s, it's a whole different ballgame. Because of the bevel gear ratio in this automatic, you're already turning more engine rpm per mile than the stock manual gearbox. So that becomes another consideration when contemplating tires. I've only found one tire, the 11R24.5 Bridgestone M726EL (a drive axle model), that, when coupled with the V-730, makes up for the different transmission gearing. But it requres 24.5 rims, which you don't have. And you thought buying tires would be easy, eh? FWIW & HTH. . .  | ||
| Kat Battersby (Ramblinruby)
Registered Member Username: Ramblinruby Post Number: 35 Registered: 5-2009 Posted From: 66.18.163.175 Rating: N/A |
Hi RJ, I have an Allison 3 speed automatic that was installed by the previous owners. With the 11-22.5's that I have now I get about 10mpg. Not sure of the model number on the tranny but can refer to my paperwork. Thanks, Kat | ||
| Teresa (Happycamperbrat)
Registered Member Username: Happycamperbrat Post Number: 110 Registered: 5-2009 Posted From: 173.25.102.41 Rating: N/A |
RJ... in english, you are saying if you have a 730 with 11r22.5s (which I have) then by going with the 11R24.5 Bridgestone M726EL and sucking up and buying new 24.5 rims that the fuel mileage improves? When I switched from the 12r22.5s I did notice about 1mpg loss but I didnt recalibrate my tripodometer either.... (Message edited by happycamperbrat on March 27, 2011) | ||
| Gus Causbie (Gusc)
Registered Member Username: Gusc Post Number: 1292 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 173.202.12.238 Rating: N/A |
Teresa, When you switched from larger to smaller tires you should have shown an increase in mpg because the odometer thinks you are going more miles than you actually are. That is, if it was accurate with the larger tire. Neither of my buses have accurate odometers, one is off by about 10%. You can get much better accuracy by using your GPS. | ||
| Teresa (Happycamperbrat)
Registered Member Username: Happycamperbrat Post Number: 111 Registered: 5-2009 Posted From: 173.25.102.41 Rating: N/A |
hmm, I was getting about 8 mpg on my larger tires, and about 6.7 on the smaller........ | ||
| Tom Caffrey (Pvcces)
Registered Member Username: Pvcces Post Number: 1363 Registered: 5-2001 Posted From: 65.73.109.92 Rating: N/A |
Kat, I would be very interested to learn which model your transmission you have. Thanks, Tom Caffrey PD4106-2576 Suncatcher Kewtchikan, Alaska | ||
| Teresa (Happycamperbrat)
Registered Member Username: Happycamperbrat Post Number: 112 Registered: 5-2009 Posted From: 173.25.102.41 Rating: N/A |
I dont have GPS, I just went off what my uncalibrated hubodometer said..... so figures were probably too far off I guess AND when I went on the trip with the larger tires it was all flat land... | ||
| Buswarrior (Buswarrior)
Registered Member Username: Buswarrior Post Number: 2065 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 174.89.177.63 Rating: N/A |
Hubodometer has to match the tire rev per mile, or it counts funny! Still a brand new off the shelf part at the vendor near you. happy coaching! buswarrior | ||
| Kat Battersby (Ramblinruby)
Registered Member Username: Ramblinruby Post Number: 37 Registered: 5-2009 Posted From: 66.18.163.175 Rating: N/A |
Hi Tom, I checked my paperwork. My tranny is a 730. I believe my mileage is good because I don't put my foot in it. This is my home. I carry precious cargo(2 dogs/2 birds). I see no reason to tear down the freeway and will always take the byways when they are available. I work from "home" so am never in a hurry to get to the next destination. I relish the journey and love to enjoy the scenery when I am mobile. Thanks, Kat | ||
| RJ Long (Rjlong)
Registered Member Username: Rjlong Post Number: 1799 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 71.195.124.20 Rating: N/A |
Kat - I've written about GMC powertrains and tires numerous times here and over on the BCM BBS. So rather than bore the troops again, check your email for a private dissertation. Oh, and what's the VIN on your '06? PD4106-???? FWIW & HTH. . . | ||
| Tom Caffrey (Pvcces)
Registered Member Username: Pvcces Post Number: 1364 Registered: 5-2001 Posted From: 65.73.109.92 Rating: N/A |
Thanks, Kat. That's the best mileage report I have seen on the V730. You are very lucky to be doing so well. Tom Caffrey PD4106-2576 Suncatcher Ketchikan, Alaska |
