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john degemis (Degemis)
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Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 3:49 pm:   

I am looking at a 1996 Neoplan 45 foot,60 Engine, B 500 Transmission. I do not know anything abought them. Looks cool, right trans and motor. Googled it but found nothing usfull. Anyone know these busses?
Pete/RTS Daytona (Pete_rtsdaytona)
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Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 6:55 pm:   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoplan
George M. Todd (George_todd)
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Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 9:45 pm:   

John,
I would hope you hear from Sean Welsh, as he is the resident Neoplan expert.
Sean Welsh (Sean)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 5:28 am:   

What model are you looking at? Neoplan made many different styles, from low-floor transits all the way to double-deck parlor coaches. At 45', you are clearly looking at one of the U.S.-built parlor models, perhaps a Cityliner.

Any Neoplan in the U.S. is going to be an orphaned coach, as Neoplan USA went out of business early last decade. The U.S.-built models will have lots of commonly available parts, though, from Detroit/Allison power trains to Meritor axles and Bendix brakes.

That said, Neoplan-specific parts like window glass, body panels, and frame components are either unobtainium, or very expensive (with long lead times, as they come from overseas). For example, windshields cost me $1,800 apiece, with another $1,200 or so in labor to install them, for a cool three grand or so. Side glass is a bit cheaper, at $800 per window plus installation.

If you give us the model and/or the VIN I might be able to tell you more.

-Sean
http://OurOdyssey.BlogSpot.com
john degemis (Degemis)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 11:06 am:   

Thanks Sean, VIN: 1N9HC19A4TL013154
Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 11:26 am:   

It's on Ebay Sean he asking 28,000 from MI the rust belt and they do rust about the same as a Eagle lol forgot the mileage around 6 or 7 hundred thousand just right for the 60 series to throw craps fwiw I am thinking about making a offer but it won't be anything close to 28,500

good luck

(Message edited by luvrbus on March 29, 2011)
Bob MacIsaac (Wildbob24)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 12:27 pm:   

Here's the link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1996-Neoplan-Motor-Coach-/320676350403?pt=Buses&hash=item4a a9ccc9c3

Bob
Sean Welsh (Sean)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 1:15 pm:   

That's a Cityliner built in Lamar, CO. Looks to be in OK shape, but I have to agree with Clifford. The listing says 600,000 miles, and at that point lots of things will need to be rebuilt or replaced. It's probably not worth more than $10k, given the age, mileage, and parts availability issues.

A tour operator who cares about seats and video monitors might have more interest in this coach, especially since the DOT is current, but those don't add any value for a conversion.

Lastly,the glass line, with windows that are both curved and angled, makes conversion a challenge. At least the Cityliner has two-piece driver windscreens, which are a bit less expensive and easier to replace than mine. And nothing beats the Neoplan ride, with all due deference to the Torsilastic crowd.

-Sean
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marvin pack (Gomer)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 4:20 pm:   

If by chance!!!! I have a friend here in Ocala FL that has 4 Neo's and will sell. Let me know and I can get you in touch with him, They are on charter services and is down-sizing and I think has some parts available also. Neo's have that special look I think too,

Gomer
Teresa (Happycamperbrat)
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 3:57 pm:   

another on ebay that I came across...... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-Neoplan-Cityliner-bus-asset-21996-/300536659328?pt=Bus es&hash=item45f9617d80
marvin pack (Gomer)
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 4:31 pm:   

Oh my!!

gomer
Sean Welsh (Sean)
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Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 2:00 am:   


quote:

another on ebay that I came across




The listing says it's a Cityliner but the photo is clearly a Metroliner.

Metroliners are actually easier to convert, and the glass is easier to replace. They still have the nice Neoplan ride.

-Sean
http://OurOdyssey.Blogspot.com
Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
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Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 9:37 am:   

It won't bring much lot's of rust and a DDEC

good luck

(Message edited by luvrbus on March 31, 2011)

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