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ChuckMC9 (Chucks) (64.105.16.220)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 10:42 pm: | |
Read this... It could save your life. Let's say it's 6.15p m and you're driving home (alone of course), after an unusually hard day on the job. You're really tired, upset and frustrated. Suddenly you start experiencing severe pain in your chest that starts to radiate out into your arm and up into your jaw. You are only about five miles from the hospital nearest your home. Unfortunately you don't know if you'll be able to make it that far. You have been trained in CPR, but the guy that taught the course did not tell you how to perform it on yourself. HOW TO SURVIVE A HEART ATTACK WHEN ALONE Since many people are alone when they suffer a heart attack, without help, the person whose heart is beating improperly and who begins to feel faint, has only about 10 seconds left before losing consciousness. However, these victims can help themselves by coughing repeatedly and very vigorously. A deep breath should be taken before each cough, and the cough must be deep and prolonged, as when producing sputum from deep inside the chest. A breath and a cough must be repeated about every two seconds without let-up until help arrives, or until the heart is felt to be beating normally again. Deep breaths get oxygen into the lungs and coughing movements squeeze the heart and keep the blood circulating. The squeezing pressure on the heart also helps it regain normal rhythm. In this way, heart attack victims can get to a hospital. A cardiologist says If everyone who gets this mail sends it to 10 people, you can bet that we'll save at least one life. |
gary Stadler (68.7.217.217)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 11:06 pm: | |
Boy I hope this is good advice... Besides here I've received this same thing is 3 spam emails just today.... !! |
Bob (Bobb) (69.19.5.78)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 11:40 pm: | |
Not only that, if you forward this to 100 people, Bill Gates will send you 1 million dollars. |
Ian Giffin (Admin) (64.228.43.34)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 12:07 am: | |
Chuck, Cardio pulmonary resuscitation. Coughing only produces the pulmonary part. You would need the cardio thing to survive. If you only get oxygen, there has to be a way to circulate it between the heart and brain. And the circulator thingy is the thing that ain't working in a heart attack. But, ya never know! Let me know if it works for you. Ian www.busnut.com |
Richard Bowyer (Drivingmisslazy) (24.196.191.70)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 12:12 am: | |
I wish I had known about this several years ago. I was on my way home for lunch. I was about 5 minutes from an emergency ward and about 5 minutes from home. I did not know for sure if I was having a heart attack or not, but strongly suspected that I was. I decided to continue home. I did make it home, but just barely. I got to the kitchen door and told my wife to call 911. I then lay down on the bed and awaited the paramedics. Within one hour I was on the table at the hospital and received three angioplasties. Three weeks later I suffered a second attack at home and received a triple bypass the next day. In retrospect, I should have stopped at a fire house I passed on the way home, or proceeded directly to the emergency ward instead of going home. Although I did make it home, it would have been good to have known about the above procedure. Hopefully everybody will remember this advice. Richard |
Bob (Bobb) (69.19.5.78)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 12:37 am: | |
This falls into the urban legend category. Snopes seems to be down, but you could follow this link for some information: http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blcpr.htm To make a long story short, you can't do CPR on yourself. CPR is reserved for people who aren't breathing, and more importantly, don't have a pulse. Do yourself a favour: take a CPR course.. learn what is really going on. Don't rely on spam to save your life. Or, if you would prefer, take heed in a quote from my old friend Chief Dan George: "Its a good day to die". |
ChuckMC9 (Chucks) (64.105.16.220)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 12:47 am: | |
OK, OK - I probably shouldn't have posted it. Might be an urban legend, but I just had a vision of one of you young bucks like Gary or Bob or I@N! lying in the frozen tundra flailing around trying to disconnect the rear axle before the state trooper directed the tow truck driver that he didn't care what DA BOOK says, just lift that thing by the bumper and drag it out of the intersection. But if you want to keep struggling with that axle thinking that the attack will subside and give you enough time to bonk the tow truck driver on the head and scream at him to NOT lift your coach, maybe he'll start pulling it away and the duals will just run over ya instead while you're still under there! LOL |
DonTX/KS (66.82.9.29)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 4:04 am: | |
That hoax has been making the rounds for some time now, thought everyone knew about it. When something comes along like that, a site I like to visit is http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/ It is also good to just read about some of the hoaxes that you might have heard and believe is true. Your heart was in the right place though Chuck, thanks for your concern for your fellow man. |
Jayjay (205.188.209.8)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 9:52 am: | |
Learn CPR, and then use it unsucessfully on someone. and see how quickly the surviving spouse sues your *ss off! (Wrongful Death brought about by misapplication of procedure) Remember also, that appellate courts have struck down the good samaritan laws in most states. To be performed properly, CPR requires two highly trained medical professionals. The chest pressure needs to be almost to the point of cracking the sternum, but if you cross that line, you're in big trouble medically and legally. You have no legal or moral obligation to your fellow man, to put your future at the risk of a lawsuit. It's a crass attitude at best, but is born of necessity to assure my financial future. Don't believe me? Call an attorney and tell him your wife died during amateurish attempts at CPR, and you want to proceed with litigation aginst the stupid idiot that did it wrong, and killed her and denied you of conubial bliss for the next twenty years. It won't cost you a dime...he'll take it immediately, for 33 1/3% of the settlement!!! ...JJ |
Legal Eagle (63.186.8.143)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 1:35 pm: | |
JayJay; You are fairly well correct in Your statement, Except for the Attorney Fee ! It would probably be nearer to 50% of settlement, the 331/3% is set by law in most states is only for Workmen's Compensation Injuries ! |
degojo (68.35.160.48)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 5:34 pm: | |
As an attorney, my advice is to immediately stop your vehicle. move to a couch or chair.sit on the edge of the couch or chai. place your head between your legs as far as you are able and kiss your ass goodbye |
James Maxwell (Jmaxwell) (66.81.53.30)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 8:45 pm: | |
I consider myself to be one of the World's renowed experts on this subject; I've had 6 of them, all medically documented, over the past 30 yrs. Aside from the medical facts that Ian outlined, it is nearly impossible to take deep breaths and you damn well don't feel like coughing. In fact, the pain can be so excruciating that you become somewhat dis-oriented and in-coherent, capable of doing little more than wondering why that damn ambulance driver has to slow down for every intersection! |
john wood (209.137.231.94)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 9:25 pm: | |
Always nice to hear the voice of experience! I do know that you CAN Heimlich yourself tho. |
James Maxwell (Jmaxwell) (66.81.53.30)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 9:53 pm: | |
John: Maybe u can, but, when you're choking to death do you think that is going to be one of those things that enters your mind? I know that the 2 or 3 times that I was in a similar condition, the only thing I could think of was that *!@#$% ambulance driver slowing down for every damn intersection between LA and NY (well, it seemed that far at the time!). |
Ian Giffin (Admin) (64.228.43.42)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 10:35 am: | |
Hi folks, For those of you who would like to learn how to do Dr. Henry's little trick, including the self-rescue part, please visit http://www.heimlichinstitute.org/howtodo.html Regards, Ian www.busnut.com |
Phil Dumpster (24.16.189.48)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 4:22 am: | |
Durk Pearson documented the coughing method of auto-CPR in one of his books back in the early eighties. The theory is that a deep and strong enough cough causes the thorax to compress and expand. This compression if done forcefully enough can squeeze the heart, causing blood to flow. Remember, the heart has four check valves and squeezing it will cause blood flow in one direction. Now, to the caveats - these have to be very forceful coughs, and you have to take a good deep breath in order to cough like that. If you are having a major heart attack (as opposed to an arhythmia) you probably won't be able to take a deep enough breath in order to do this. If you are having a mild heart attack, then coughing will give you more time to get to an emergency room. Also, there isn't enough blood flow for you to do much of anything except keep coughing. Forget about walking to the nearest hospital. If you happen to be driving at the time, then you might be able to drive to a hospital emergency room, honk your horn to get the attention of the ER staff, then stop when they come out to see what's wrong to watch you go into full cardiac arrest. Keeps them on their toes, I suppose. |
Stephen Fessenden (Sffess) (65.154.176.113)
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 11:45 pm: | |
Don't try driving if you are having a heart attack and need such extreme measures. If you can stay with it long enough to pull safely off the road, get help or give up. Don't drive. It could result in a terrible accident. When I was flying, if you had an emergency you still had a responsibility to put the plane down in a place that would harm the fewest people, even if you would not survive. Same with a bus or a car. With CPR or coughing to produce CPR your brain blood flow will not be high enough to allow good judgement. |