| Author | Message | ||
| Steven Foster (57_gmc)
Registered Member Username: 57_gmc Post Number: 45 Registered: 12-2010 Posted From: 72.156.216.251  Rating: N/A |
Hi gang, sorry I have not posted anything for months but read everyday. First got my overhaul engine back in all painted up and been on 500 mile trip and a few 150 mile trips and she runs great... just add fuel... getting 10.7 out of the 671. anyway what I have seen is on the doors on the sides. I did not know that the top of them looks to be mounted in a rubber strip that works like the top hinge. Anyway I see at the Gen door it is coming apart. Were can you find the rubber or is there another way to do it??? This is on my 1957 PD 4106... Thanks Steve | ||
| R.C.Bishop (Chuckllb)
Registered Member Username: Chuckllb Post Number: 1511 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 97.227.84.109  Rating: N/A |
Try Austinhardware.com....where I got mine.  Best wishes! RCB | ||
| Mel La Plante (Mel_4104)
Registered Member Username: Mel_4104 Post Number: 169 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 66.183.67.135 Rating: N/A |
Steve that is a very rare 1957 4106 that you have as to my understanding gm did not make 4106's till 1960 when the 4104 was stopped, open the door at the front left corner right at the drivers feet and look straight ahead, you will see the model # and the # of assembly eg. 4104 xxxx or 4196 xxxx. | ||
| Larry & Lynne Dixon (Larry_d)
Registered Member Username: Larry_d Post Number: 314 Registered: 7-2005 Posted From: 50.39.221.113  Rating: N/A |
Luke has all of the rubber parts needed also | ||
| Larry D Baker (Lbaker4106)
Registered Member Username: Lbaker4106 Post Number: 102 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 174.42.172.172 Rating: N/A |
4106's were not built until 1961 | ||
| Gus Causbie (Gusc)
Registered Member Username: Gusc Post Number: 1324 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 173.202.4.193  Rating: N/A |
Give the guy a break! It says on his profile it is a 4104 and he says he has a 671!! | ||
| Mark Renner (Boomer)
Registered Member Username: Boomer Post Number: 236 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 69.96.155.234  Rating: N/A |
Bonney's Bison Tuff hinges are supposed to be the best. Better than OEM. By the way, there was ONE 4106 built in 1960, PD4106-420EXP, which is owned by my brother. It was the proto built for GM engineering and is the very first built, some 9 months before regular production commenced. | ||
| Jack Fids (Jack_fids)
Registered Member Username: Jack_fids Post Number: 745 Registered: 1-2009 Posted From: 72.211.145.15  Rating: N/A |
Bonney's cuts them from conveyor belts, they have cord running thru them for strength & he fabricates them himself and I ain't heard no bad words about the product...a tad $$ but easy to swallow. They work esp. good if you have an alignment problem I'm told. | ||
| Steven Foster (57_gmc)
Registered Member Username: 57_gmc Post Number: 46 Registered: 12-2010 Posted From: 72.156.216.251 Rating: N/A |
Thanks for the info I was WRONG on the model number ::: PD4104, it was at night and the bugs was out in great numbers !!! anyway she is running great having a great on road trips and hope to make it to a rally this fall like in FLA when it get cold here. Thanks Steve | ||
| RJ Long (Rjlong)
Registered Member Username: Rjlong Post Number: 1815 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 71.195.124.20  Rating: N/A |
Steve - Send Ed a quick email: edannbus@aol.com He's got stainless steel hinges for all the doors on your coach. A little pricy compared to rubber, but you'll never have to change them again. Mark - Does your brother's 4106 have the emergency door in the rear like the '04's? IIRC, there were a few built with them. Would love to see some pics of his coach, too! FWIW & HTH. . . | ||
| Jim Wilke (Jim Bob) (Pd41044039)
Registered Member Username: Pd41044039 Post Number: 639 Registered: 2-2001 Posted From: 184.0.13.120  Rating: N/A |
I used the OEM rubber from Luke. I don't like the stainless hinges because when the door is open in the rain, all the rain runs down the door and POURS on you when you are working in or accessing a bay. The rubber does not do that. Some of my hinges were the originals from 1959 so I don't think many of us will ever have to replace them again. If you do the rubber hinges, get a couple of gun cleaning brushes to clean the slots (one will wear out after about 3-4 doors). I used 22 cal which I bent at the threaded end & used a little vise grip for a handle. Clean, clean, clean the slots! Be prepared for the little anchor screws to be broken or break off as you remove them. You must remove all of them or grind them down or the rubber will not slide in! Cut your rubber hinges about 3/8 longer than you think they need to be as somehow they end up short when installed. Use KY or similar gel to lube the rubber hinge. You will need at least one helper on full size doors to hold & guide the door as you feed the rubber hinge. Some of my old hinges were stuck in the slot by corrosion so I used a box knife to cut the "flanges" off. The center strip then would slide out and with a pick or something I could remove the "flanges" and then clean. | ||
| Steven Foster (57_gmc)
Registered Member Username: 57_gmc Post Number: 47 Registered: 12-2010 Posted From: 72.156.216.251 Rating: N/A |
Thanks all for the information !! I call Luke and he got me all fixed up and we are installing the rubber hinge this weekend. It sure looks better now. Will keep reading daily and post when I need help as this "4104" is still new to me but got it up where I can go somewhere now. Thanks Steve | ||
| Stephen (Mohave_steve)
Registered Member Username: Mohave_steve Post Number: 28 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 71.34.214.52 Rating: N/A |
Steven, I would go along with those recommending the high end solution. I noticed that two of the bay door hinges on my Eagle were showing signs of seperation. I tracked down replacement material. Removed the doors and cleaned the tracks. I put everythin back together and it was a BI#@H! Today, the four factory original hinges are looking a bit rough but hanging on. The two new ones have completely seperated and dropped the doors in the dirt!! | ||
| ED Hackenbruch (Shadowman)
Registered Member Username: Shadowman Post Number: 372 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.99.231.182 Rating: N/A |
About 5 years ago i replaced all of my hinges on my 5A with Stuart Bonney's reinforced rubber hinges. I also made small cables and attached them to each of the doors in the upper inside corner just as an additional precaution. I have also just gotten some of the stainless hinges and have put them on each door six inches in from the edge and reused the rubber for in between them and to fill the spaces on each end. I had some new regular rubber that i decided to use on one of the doors as a test to see which one holds up better over time. I was surprised at how easily the new rubber tore as i was putting it in. I have 2 more doors to do and on one of them i will be using some of the reinforced rubber that i had left over from the first time i did it. So to sum up for my test; some new regular rubber, some 5 year old used reinforced rubber, and some 5 year old unused reinforced rubber, and 2 steel hinges per door. I think the new regular rubber will last longer than before due to the weight of the door now being held by the steel hinges, but i still think they won't last as long as the old re used reinforced rubber even though they have been out in the weather for 5 years already. And yes, even with cleaning and lubing they have all been a pain to do. |