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Sam Summers (Greyghost)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 12:44 pm:   

Ok Wise Men, the shop manual for the 1967 8/71 says to use Dextron Transmission fluid for the power steering. Is this still holding true today or is there a upgrade to use?

Sam
Dal Farnworth (Dallas)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 1:32 pm:   

No such animal as Dextron... Dexron is what you are looking for, and I would go with what's already in the system. Some use 40w, some use Dexron, and I've seen some put hydraulic oil in the system. If you change what's in there, make certain you flush it well, or you'll have a bunch of problems.
Dexron
Dexron II
Dexron III
Dexron IV

are not really interchangeable, if I 'member right.

Good Luck!
Bob MacIsaac (Wildbob24)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 1:43 pm:   

Sam,

If your bus still has the original "booster cylinder" type power steering, you would use the Dexron ATF. If it's been converted to the Shepard integral power steering, you would use motor oil.

Bob
Sam Summers (Greyghost)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 2:44 pm:   

Ok Grammer Nazi, my finger hit a T which it wasn't suppose to.

Bob it is the original booster cylinder, so Dexron (without the T)ATF will be it.
Thank you both!

Sam
Dal Farnworth (Dallas)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 6:28 pm:   

Hee Hee Hee Heee... Sorry Sam, I couldn't help myself.

(Yeah I could, but I didn't cause I was bored!)LOL
Sam Summers (Greyghost)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 6:57 pm:   

Your lucky that I didn't say something about stainless steel water tanks verses plastic, but I fiqured you already had a chunk takin out of you from that one!
Dal Farnworth (Dallas)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 8:05 pm:   

I was gonna mention that she should use an old aluminum saddle tank from an over the road truck!
Gus Causbie (Gusc)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 11:26 pm:   

Bob,

Where did you find out to use motor oil in Sheppard PS?

I was told by the PO to use Dexron in mine?

Thanks.
Bob MacIsaac (Wildbob24)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 12:32 am:   

Gus,

I was initially told this by my local Atlanta bus guru, Ray Cox. It is confirmed by the 4905 maintenance manual in 2 different places:

Section 13, page 3 and Section 16, page 32

The manual is pretty explicit in both places about not using Dexron in the Shepard system, putting the warning in bold type.

I can scan those pages and send them to you if you'll give me your email address.

Bob
Gus Causbie (Gusc)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 4:44 pm:   

Bob,

Thanks, I went to the Sheppard website and they did, indeed confirm what you said. The reply is quoted below;

"We like 15W40 the best for our gears. The only real concern is if you operate in very cold climates. It can damage the pump on start-up or hydraulic fan drives if it gets too cold.

The noise is the fluid cavitating as it passes through the valve porting. Eliminate any sharp bends in the hoses or 90 degree fittings if possible. The motor oil should also run quieter.

Regards,
Roy"

The bit in the second paragraph is because I also asked them about the noise in my system.

Thanks for the heads up.

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