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bsreg (68.243.136.188)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 1:12 pm: | |
I know the desire is to have one piece door... NO Money for it right now.. With that said, I would like to attach sometype of compressor to the air door. I am wanting to be able to be able to maintain pressure with bus shutdown. I know I will need to add switch on outside somewhere and one on the inside. What type of commpressor can be obtained cheaply that will work and how do you by pass the current setup. Thanks. |
FAST FRED (65.154.176.86)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 4:10 pm: | |
Many Cadys had a small air pump to level out the rear suspension.
Sometimes on the older GM failed diesel cars they can be found too.
Pick what you need at your friendly Auto Wreckers.
12V and cheap.
FAST FRED |
TWO DOGS (65.179.209.251)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 4:33 pm: | |
I have mine hooked to the house batterys, still reach thru to open the door..you need: cad. air comp. ,off inside fender well,air tank,(truck junk yard)pressure regulator(water well supply)air regulator(set at about 25 pounds...if you shop around,should be 75.00 or less |
Nick Morris (Nick3751) (65.117.139.135)
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How bout getting a cheap little 12v compressor like you keep in your trunk to pump up a raft or something, add a 12v pressure switch and a tank. Cut the end off the hose and stick it on a barb fitting on the tank and then to your door. That way your door won't leak down your main system and you'll have air. That's the way I'm going to run the air horns on my pick up.
Works for me. |
TWO DOGS (65.179.200.30)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 6:43 pm: | |
those little cheap things are just that...bought my cadilac one at a junkyard for 10.00....quality! |
BrianMCI96A3 (65.40.153.32)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 11:16 pm: | |
Nick one of those cheap little compressors might work for an air horn with a large enough tank, but those things are really pretty flimsy.
Two D and Fred are right, I bought a Lincoln town car compressor myself about the same size as the cheap 12v ones... about the same cost, and much better build quality.
Brian |
BrianMCI96A3 (65.40.153.32)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 12:21 am: | |
I should have mentioned that used they are about the same price... new they are probably the price of a full sized compressor!
Brian |
Buswarrior (Buswarrior) (64.229.213.105)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 10:13 pm: | |
Hello all.
Should noise be a consideration here?
Many of these split doors droop open without air pressure, and with a small leak down, the darned compressor will turn on during the night...
More than enough other noises to wake one without a self inflicted one!
happy coaching!
buswarrior |
TWO DOGS (65.179.200.188)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 11:14 pm: | |
I have a panel under the elec. panel under the drivers elbow,,,Has air switches & valves in there,,that's where the pump & tank are,,,if you have your tank at 80 pounds & regulator set at 20...& no serious leaks,it shouldn't have to turn on during the night.. |
BrianMCI96A3 (208.13.129.242)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 8:36 am: | |
Plus, you could wrap the compressor with sound deadening material, or box it in, or install it up underneath the front of the coach somewhere...
Brian |
Doug Dickinson (Dougd470) (65.161.188.11)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 9:53 am: | |
I have an NJT with split doors that I am not changing (at least for a while). I bleed the air pressure and use them manually and all is well. They close suprisingly tight and stay that way. No leaks noticed yet and it has been here for over a year.
If you do the interior finish with replacement in mind, you can plan on replacing it later with the sedan door.
Also - I am adding one of the $89 "pancake" air compressors from Harbor Freight. They put out about 2.5 to 3 CFM at 90 lbs and 5.5 or so at 40 lbs and will run a nail gun, air up the coach (slowly) and fill a tire if need be. For the price, it makes sense to me. It is a noisy little bugger though!
Doug
St Louis MC9 |
bsreg (68.243.134.156)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 11:59 am: | |
Doug what I am wishing to do is to provide a more secure door. Since adding a padlock is difficult and securing at night is not real good either. I figured if I could keep it aired then I could keep it shut. |
Doug Dickinson (Dougd470) (65.161.188.11)
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Use a manual lock - i.e. a bar that rests on brackets to hold it closed. That would certainly be low budget. A padlock is not hard either, but the right type hasp could be difficult to find.
If you use air, it could be defeated. If you have an NJT coach, there is a defeat in the drivers wiring box that allows you to dump air to the door from the exterior and get access. Inside the coach there is another below the dash. Personally, I don't trust air pressure for long term security. Just my preference.
If you want "walk away" secure, I suggest a mechanical lock of some type.
Doug
St Louis MC9 |
CoryDane RTSII (66.155.188.245)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 3:44 am: | |
Just a thought
I thought the air motors were only strong enough to keep the doors closed with reasonable force upon them, like a person falling on it from the stair.
But they can be forced open with air psi on the air motor. The air motor was not meant to be a "LOCK" because of emergency situations.
I had the same thought but found that they can be forced open. When I make the replacement single door, I will use regular auto door latches as the door will open up, like a DeLorean "Gull Wing" type door. Offer some protection agianst rain or sun when open and have a nifty keypad instead of a key. May use air assist to "open" the door but not for security.
"Imagine"
cd |
TWO DOGS (63.185.96.29)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 7:15 am: | |
WHEW.........no AIR MOTORS.........little boys think because something moves...it has a motor |