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Larry Baird (Airhog) (4.15.156.34)
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Well I put Jakes on my 8V71 and now the wires need to be run. I have noticed that some of you have stated that Jakes don't work that well on 2 strokes. For those of you that have them do you use only one side at times or is it always both? Should I run the extra wire and switch and have a split or not? |
FAST FRED (65.154.177.121)
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Jakes work fine on DD's , the split system (one bank OR two) will allow finer controll than tha ALL on system.
FAST FRED |
TWO DOGS (63.185.96.29)
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special things go in there...have somebody that knows what they are doing wire it...and..yes to the one side/both sides control...kinda steep hill one side...... REAL steep hill both... |
Richard Bowyer (Drivingmisslazy) (66.168.164.139)
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Definitely split system. Combined with different gear choices, you seldom will need the service brakes, except for stopping. Works great on 8V92. See no reason why it would not work on 8V71.
Richard |
Bill Gerrie (209.50.74.104)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 9:42 am: | |
Larry
There is a special switch from Jacobs that allows one side or two. As the other posts indicate it depends on the hill. Sometimes one will do but other times you need two. I have had a Jake on my 8V71 for 14 years and although it isn't as effective as on a 4 stoke it still works great. I only need to adjust my brakes every 5 years. You get used to letting the Jake do the work. You let the Jake bring you down to a safe rpm in hi gear then shift down and the Jake is more effective then. Bill |
Larry Baird (Airhog) (4.15.156.34)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 10:23 am: | |
Thank you all, the split system it is. |
TWO DOGS (65.179.208.253)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 11:55 am: | |
BUT.....like I said...there is more to it than running two wires to the front...it has to hook in to the accelerator,have a special switch....etc. take it to somebody that knows how to hook one up.. |
Larry Baird (Airhog) (4.15.156.34)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 4:03 pm: | |
It takes 3 wires two switchs one light, a micro switch on the clutch, a "special switch" in the side of the governor box and I am that somebody.
Thanks of your concern, putting it together is not a problem just if anyone had a need for only one side. |
Nick Morris (Nick3751) (65.117.139.135)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 8:07 pm: | |
Larry,
Recently on this board there was some discussion about hooking up the jakes to your brake lights. It seems that there is some talk of making it mandatory. Don't know but it might be something to do while your doing it so you wouldn't have to go back and do it again. |
Larry Baird (Airhog) (4.15.156.34)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 9:33 pm: | |
I think that would be a way to go but the Jakes I used I removed from a 12 Volt truck and the old bus is still 24 volt. It could be done but not worth the trouble. If someone can't see a bus slowing down thay must have there head in the wrong place, back off and leave more room. |
Jim Stacy (209.247.222.83)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 10:31 pm: | |
Following a bus with the jake brake light will drive someone nuts. We caravaned with a coach with the jake hooked to the 5 rear brake lights. Every time they took their foot off the accelerator those lights came on and you never knew if they were resting their foot or in a full panic stop.
If you must have a jake light, hook up a separate yellow light so someone behind you is alerted but not paniced. FWIW
Jim Stacy |
BrianMCI96A3 (69.68.102.7)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 9:51 am: | |
I'm planning on doing just what Jim mentioned, hooking up an amber light for the Jakes seperate from the brake lights.
It ought to get plenty of attention, but not drive people nuts with brake lights.
Brian |
bulldogie (69.4.194.19)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 11:25 am: | |
Hey folks if your looking for a light that will get their attention, try these http://www.installer.com/lights/neon/
(I am not selling them just found them when I was looking for a way to say slow down) Also do we have anybody who used to work in Plastics that could make a oblong box that would spell slow down that the tube could be mounted in??? The 20 inch ones seemed to be best because they would be able to go across the back of the bus |
Bill Gerrie (65.49.74.228)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 9:08 pm: | |
Larry
If you got the Jakes from a 12 volt truck the coils in them will be 12 volts. You might want to check to see if the coil is the same on 12 or 24 volt ones. You may have to put a resistor in series to avoid burning the coils out. Just a thought. Bill |
Larry Baird (Airhog) (4.15.156.34)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 11:15 am: | |
The coils are 12 volt but the house is also 12 volt so I am using that to power the jakes |
Buswarrior (Buswarrior) (64.229.212.164)
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Hello all.
The new NJ Transit MCI 102 DL's are equipped with high mounted amber lights alongside their high mounted brake lights, to indicate the retarder is engaged.
Once you know, when you you see just yellow, the driver has lifted throttle and speed will ease down, if you see red, brakes are on.
Their way of reducing hits from the rear from surprised motorists.
I concur, brake lights tied to retarders or jakes are a real pain to those who are following.
happy coaching!
buswarrior |