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| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 435 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 67.253.124.108 Rating: N/A |
my Honda Ev 6010 will not start. i hold down the start switch and it will run but i get no green light.when i let off it pukes out. this is also a propane unit. any ideas? | ||
| Luvrbus (Luvrbus)
Registered Member Username: Luvrbus Post Number: 1228 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 184.10.191.147 Rating: N/A |
Not Sean but a bad stator control box causes that and you will not like the price from Honda they are very proud of it lol good luck (Message edited by luvrbus on August 09, 2011) | ||
| Dal Farnworth (Dallas)
Registered Member Username: Dallas Post Number: 667 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 98.20.60.130  Rating: N/A |
I think we're gonna need another Timmy! | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 436 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 67.253.124.108 Rating: N/A |
timmy? | ||
| George M. Todd (George_todd)
Registered Member Username: George_todd Post Number: 1275 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 99.37.28.23 Rating: N/A |
What you are saying is that it will start and run as long as the start switch is held down? If so, check your oil pressure. G | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 437 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 67.253.124.108 Rating: N/A |
No green light and when it stopped running last time I had a bad white smoke episode.. This Honda is a p o s. It is propane with no more than 140 hours. It has expensive oil in it and it looks to be enough. There seems to be a little moisture in the oil but I attribute that to condensation. | ||
| FAST FRED (Fast_fred)
Registered Member Username: Fast_fred Post Number: 1570 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 76.195.74.163  Rating: N/A |
Scrap it , and sell me the propane kit for it , so I can convert my Gas unit. FF | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 438 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 67.253.124.108 Rating: N/A |
i guess i will have to bring my generac with us when we go on the road until i can fix this one. | ||
| Buswarrior (Buswarrior)
Registered Member Username: Buswarrior Post Number: 2111 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 174.89.173.98  Rating: N/A |
I think George's intent was the wider oil pressure topic... how about the oil pressure switch that keeps it running? Part of the engine protection system for the little beast. happy coaching! buswarrior | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 439 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 67.253.124.108 Rating: N/A |
i would still get a green light if the oil switch was bad? | ||
| Sean Welsh (Sean)
Registered Member Username: Sean Post Number: 1272 Registered: 1-2003 Posted From: 98.86.128.180  Rating: N/A |
Well, I hope this does not cost me my Mr. Wizard title (or mean I have to return the magic decoder ring), but Hondas of this type are not my strong suit. Really two possibilities here. One would be the control board, as Clifford suggests. AFAIK, there's not much you can do with those except replace them. The other would be one of the safety switches, and those can be tested. In addition to the oil pressure switch mentioned by George, which should read Open at rest and Closed with maybe 5-10 PSI on it, there is likely a temperature switch as well. This switch should read Closed at rest and should Open at maybe 220-240 or so. Check the two switches, and if they are good (and have good wires back to the control module), then it is probably a board problem. That said, it wouldn't hurt to throw a mechanical oil pressure gauge on the unit and make sure you really have pressure while it is cranking. -Sean http://OurOdyssey.BlogSpot.com | ||
| Cullen Newsom (Cullennewsom)
Registered Member Username: Cullennewsom Post Number: 189 Registered: 2-2009 Posted From: 216.230.236.42  Rating: N/A |
My honda (5.5hp) air compressor did something similar to this once, it was the oil* switch/sending unit. Manuals with a troubleshooting guide can be downloaded here: http://engines.honda.com/models/ * Honda calls it an "Oil Alert" switch | ||
| gary throneberry (Garhawk)
Registered Member Username: Garhawk Post Number: 40 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 24.158.150.79 Rating: N/A |
Hi Tom, These people have been very helpful with information and, parts if needed. Hicklin Distributing, Inc 800 two three four 8989 P.S. Might check for air leaks from engine fuel pump back to source. | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 440 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 67.253.124.108 Rating: N/A |
propane..... | ||
| Tim Hoskinson (Tdh37514151)
Registered Member Username: Tdh37514151 Post Number: 269 Registered: 9-2004 Posted From: 75.180.10.87  Rating: N/A |
Hi I have had a 6010 honda now for seven years. Due to high hours and several failures I replaced my 6010 but I will say though I really don't care for them it was a good reliable generator. The fact that the generator will not continue to run when the switch is released can be a result of several factors. Some have already been mentioned,oil pressure switch and over temperature switch. The key here is that the green light never lights. This indicates the generator has no output so it will not continue to run. The cause can be as costly as the rotary fields or stator windings or could simply be a bad connection. The first thing to look at is the slip ring brushes to make sure they are making connection. From there you would need to see if the regulator is applying field voltage to the brushes. There really are some simple trouble shooting techniques that can quickly let you know what is wrong. If you would like help with the trouble shooting process feel free to e mail me and I will get you my phone number. Best of luck. Tim | ||
| Jack Fids (Jack_fids)
Registered Member Username: Jack_fids Post Number: 866 Registered: 1-2009 Posted From: 72.211.145.15  Rating: |
Interestingly humorous in an ironic metaphysical sense Sean... the restocking charge for returning a Decoder Ring is your Mr. Wizard title & your net worth..! (it's in Da Rule Book) Looks like you are stuck with all three for the remainder of the trip, there will be someone at the door inside The Terminal when it is over to collect all 3, in return you will receive "True Enlightenment", comfort & a set of Back Flappers to propel yourself around "THE BIG Campground".  or in the iconic words of one Les Nessman "OH! The Humanity of it all...." | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 441 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 67.253.124.108 Rating: N/A |
I HAVE BEEN ON THE PHONE WITH A WONDERFUL GENT AT pinellis power products. he had me watch 4 videos about this and also had me sand down the rings for a better connection. i have a voltage drop from 3.3 at the plug to 1.3 at the brushes. we are going to make some jumpers tonight and bypass the regulator. | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 442 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 67.253.124.108 Rating: N/A |
We got the engine to run by removing the regulator and hot wording the brushes,but we still don't have proper voltages. | ||
| Jack Fids (Jack_fids)
Registered Member Username: Jack_fids Post Number: 871 Registered: 1-2009 Posted From: 72.211.145.15 Rating: N/A |
"hot wording the brushes" Thomas, if you used any that I haven't (while mashing a thumb with a hammer for instance) OR if you were able to formulate some new ones, I am sure we ALL would appreciate a list of them....! The "Carlin 10" have So many miles on them that they have become nearly worthless\meaningless in such situations... Some 21st Century words would be a welcome addition to my "lexicon of angry utterances" that suddenly cause broken things to become useful & functional again & provide relief in times of frustration and/or indescribable pain Share? ;) | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 443 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 67.253.124.108 Rating: N/A |
hot wiring the brushes. as we have no Resistance between any of the wires to ground except the yellow it is a sign the stator which is ยข916. i think i will get a cheap Chinese diesel unit instead. | ||
| Jack Fids (Jack_fids)
Registered Member Username: Jack_fids Post Number: 872 Registered: 1-2009 Posted From: 72.211.145.15 Rating: N/A |
,,,just scraping your paint with a rubber key there Thomas... | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 444 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 67.253.124.108 Rating: N/A |
i am going to put the unit on eBay as a parts/core unit and the red hat in a different auction,i have to get something up and running for the pregnant wife as we have to go back to the falls in Oct. | ||
| Sean Welsh (Sean)
Registered Member Username: Sean Post Number: 1273 Registered: 1-2003 Posted From: 67.142.130.36 Rating: N/A |
Sorry to hear that it is a bad stator. That's about the worst possible outcome, besides a bricked engine. Since the engine is running well, you might try to find a working generator head. Probably cheaper than an entire set. You might even find an identical set with a bad engine from which you can salvage the head. -Sean http://OurOdyssey.BlogSpot.com | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 445 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 67.253.124.108 Rating: N/A |
I can't get it at home,I'm sure I won't be able to find it on eBay.a brand new diesel can be had for a grand,yes I know it,s made in china by workers making two bucks a day,but it looks good to me | ||
| Tom Christman (Tchristman)
Registered Member Username: Tchristman Post Number: 325 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 66.218.33.156 Rating: N/A |
This is why I had Dick Wright build me a 12kw with all mechanical solenoids with a simple voltage regulator for the generator end. My Powertech 10kw is built the same way. Granted I have only 1,000hrs on it, but all 100% trouble free. Good Luck, TomC | ||
| joe padberg (Joemc7ab)
Registered Member Username: Joemc7ab Post Number: 543 Registered: 6-2004 Posted From: 66.38.159.33 Rating: N/A |
Thomas There is a fellow on Edmonton Kijiji that has been trying to sell a 6010 for parts for a long time. Ad ID# 305103565 | ||
| thomas flocks (Taflocks)
Registered Member Username: Taflocks Post Number: 457 Registered: 9-2009 Posted From: 67.253.124.108 Rating: N/A |
too late i bought a diesel 6500 watt for $1499 on my visa card. |
