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| Larry Nelson (Larryn4106)
Registered Member Username: Larryn4106 Post Number: 91 Registered: 8-2008 Posted From: 50.83.99.205 Rating: N/A |
When my bus was in the brake shop, I asked them to replace my radius arm bushings. After a week they called me to ask, "what radius rods are you talking about"...then days of getting the wrong bushings, and then wrong bushings the second time, then after another week, they tell me this. I have the bushings now, thanks to US Coach. Bill at US Coach told me they don't use the tool shown in da' book, they use a screwdriver to remove them and soap them up good to install the new ones. Just how hard is this job. I got ten bushings so I can do them all. Anyone do this? Any hints from start to finish. Thanks. | ||
| marvin pack (Gomer)
Registered Member Username: Gomer Post Number: 1528 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 76.4.118.199  Rating: N/A |
Larry!!! It isn't hard just time consuming. First and foremost!!! raise the coach up just enough to relieve the pressure off the tires. BLOCK BLOCK BLOCK SOLID!! When you start taking things loose on one side the other will move also. Take one out at a time too. Getting the bolts loose maybe hard also. It may take something to cut the old bushing out like a torch lol and have an extingusher at your side. Clean all parts put bushing in and reattach tighten to specs also and have a good time. Also remember everything is heavy so use a good floor jack. Look in the maint manuel also FIRST!! Gomer | ||
| Larry Nelson (Larryn4106)
Registered Member Username: Larryn4106 Post Number: 92 Registered: 8-2008 Posted From: 50.83.99.205 Rating: N/A |
Marvin, thanks for that information. I spoke with Bill at US Coach and he takes the wheels off. Is that necessary? I realize it would be easier to get access to everything if they were off. You method, do you life the tires off the floor completely? I realize the the coach needs to be blocked, but what about the axle? Do you use a floor jack under the axle? I have the big tools...big wrenches. Do not have big AIR tools. What about Bill using soap to install??? Did you use the tool in the manual? Cutting the old bushing out...using what...a small sidewheel grinder? Did you really use a torch to burn them out?? Sorry but I have these questions. Thanks. | ||
| marvin pack (Gomer)
Registered Member Username: Gomer Post Number: 1531 Registered: 3-2007 Posted From: 76.4.118.199 Rating: N/A |
I would take the wheels off too YES. Just lift them up enough to get them off tho it will make them easier to put back on. Always have a floor jack under what you are working on in the event of an unexpected movement. Look at the new bushings and see how thick they are, I have used drill bits and drilled between the pieces and kept working them out. Yes I have used a torch for them. LOL Anything that will help get the old bushing out is a plus. They can be stubborn to say the least. After getting the inside part loose and out, I also cleaned it and sorta polished it with plumbers clothe that is the mesh like stuff. Do not use any grease on the inside of the new bushing I think soap will be fine as not to deteriate the rubber. Big tools are a must in this and sometimes a 3/4 air inpact will do a much quicker job and lot less damage to you knuckles in the event of a slip. Maybe onother NUT will chime in and add to all this.One more thing Use plenty of PB Blaster on the bolts and nuts. You may even have to heat the nuts up to get them to come loose. Gomer | ||
| Len Silva (Lsilva)
Registered Member Username: Lsilva Post Number: 496 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 72.187.35.208  Rating: N/A |
Larry, My 4104 manual specifically says (IN ALL CAPS) USE NO LUBRICANT (NOT EVEN WATER) ON BUSHINGS. Now, that was in the fifties with rubber bushings. I don't know if it still applies. | ||
| Jack Fids (Jack_fids)
Registered Member Username: Jack_fids Post Number: 916 Registered: 1-2009 Posted From: 72.211.145.15  Rating: N/A |
A coarse tooth hacksaw blade is my tool of choice when removing rubber bushings from their containment, AFTER the metal sleeves have been pushed free... fwiw | ||
| Bill Hudecek (Mrbill4108)
Registered Member Username: Mrbill4108 Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 98.85.186.109 Rating: N/A |
I replaced mine in the rear of our 4108. Made the tool the book showed. Tool makes it easy to install bushings in rod. Didn't remove wheels as I could get there from under the bus. ONLY do one rod at a time! Things move but a scissor jack worked well to move things back in place to install rod. Didn't use any lube as they went back together without to much trouble. Its not a bad job, once you get the rod off and old bushing cleaned off of it. Cleaning the rod ends took the most time, from what I remember. (Message edited by mrbill4108 on August 31, 2011) | ||
| Larry Nelson (Larryn4106)
Registered Member Username: Larryn4106 Post Number: 93 Registered: 8-2008 Posted From: 50.83.99.205 Rating: N/A |
I looked at my book (again) and it also says "no lubricant"..... Hmmmmmm | ||
| Jim Wilke (Jim Bob) (Pd41044039)
Registered Member Username: Pd41044039 Post Number: 667 Registered: 2-2001 Posted From: 173.162.23.251  Rating: N/A |
I have had great luck using K-Y on the rubber hinges on the bay doors. I am certain that wouldn't hurt anything if you need some "extra slide". But I wouldn't deploy it unless you need it. Doing the bay doors, when you get it on your hands, you don't have much traction holding the hinge to slide it along the slot. | ||
| Dal Farnworth (Dallas)
Registered Member Username: Dallas Post Number: 702 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 98.20.48.154  Rating: N/A |
Jim, that is almost too tempting, but I'll wait for Cody or Jack or George to make the required comments. (See? I do have restraint!) | ||
| Jim Wilke (Jim Bob) (Pd41044039)
Registered Member Username: Pd41044039 Post Number: 668 Registered: 2-2001 Posted From: 184.0.13.120 Rating: N/A |
Now, come on Dal. We NEVER take the shot if it's too easy, too obvious. It's usually a trap of some kind. We're talkin' bus parts here. | ||
| Jack Fids (Jack_fids)
Registered Member Username: Jack_fids Post Number: 918 Registered: 1-2009 Posted From: 72.211.145.15 Rating: N/A |
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