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Jim Shepherd (Rv_Safetyman) (66.82.9.29)

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Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 10:39 pm:   

I have posted in the recent past about the fact that the engine in our ’85 Eagle died an overheating death. Apparently the engine overheated more than I thought last August. Over the last few months, I replaced the Voith Transmission with an Allison HT740 and made several upgrades to the engine. After less than 100 miles of test driving, the engine died from a cracked head or two. As a result, I am listing some really great parts in the Flea Market. I have listed my asking price, but would listen to reasonable offers.

I have purchased my dream combination: a Series 60 and an Eaton AutoShift 10 speed transmission. It is going to be a huge project, but I think the end result will be worth it. I had prepared the bus for this combination (for the event I hit the Loto). Well, the death of my 6V92 forced my hand much quicker than I planned.

As the project progresses, I will document it our bus project page:

http://www.rvsafetysystems.com/busproject.htm

Jim Shepherd
Jim at rvsafetysystems dot com
TWO DOGS (63.185.65.217)

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Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 1:09 am:   

series 60 is a nice engine...I drove a big truck with a 430 horse....PLENTY of balls...you will love it....you must be very well off....would you adopt me...
Peter Broadribb (Madbrit) (67.136.103.209)

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Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 4:39 am:   

Jim,

I am assuming the 60 and the Autoshift came from the same vehicle?

I hope you got all the wiring harnesses and the relevant computers to make it all work together.

Peter.
Henry R. Bergman, Jr. (Henryofcj) (63.224.197.10)

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Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 2:18 pm:   

My brother's fire engine had/has the Series 60 at 550 hp. He took me for a short ride and I could not believe that a 38,000 pound piece of fire iron...

...could move out soooosss quickly. Practically burned rubber!! Are you getting the auto-shift Fuller or are you going to hold out for the...

...newer and very trick Ultra-shift clutchless 10-speed version that does EVERYTHING automaticaly for you? Now that would be trick. Good luck.
Jim Shepherd (Rv_Safetyman) (66.82.9.61)

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Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 11:24 am:   

Peter, the engine and transmission came from different trucks. The AutoShift will work with any electronic engine that has an SAE J1939 communication capability (so the books and Eaton folks say). I got the engine out of a wrecked Freightliner and yesterday I spent the whole day removing all of the wiring that is needed to hook up the engine.

Henry, I would love to have the Ultra-Shift, but that is pretty new and not in the wrecking yards yet. I think it is the same set-up as the AutoShift, but with a torque converter like mechanism in place of the clutch. I will be using a hydraulic clutch and that should not be too bad of a fabrication and I don't mind the clutch as long as the old knee holds up (it is only used for starting and stopping).

BTW, for those interested, there is an AutoSelect (vs. AutoShift)that can be used on a mechanical engines. The wrecking yard I am working with here in Denver has one, but the electronic "shifting tower" (expensive) is missing. In this case, the transmission shifts gears automatically, but the driver has to match the RPM with the transmission – there is an indicator on the dash to tell you which way to go for RPM to make the transition to the next gear.

One last comment, it appears that the AutoShift is slightly shorter than the Allison and that will help me with shoehorning the engine in.


Jim Shepherd
Evergreen, CO
’85 Eagle 10
http://rvsafetysystems.com
Bus Project details: http://www.rvsafetysystems.com/busproject.htm
Jim Shepherd (Rv_Safetyman) (66.82.9.61)

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Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 11:31 am:   

Forgot to address Two Dogs comment. First of all, I have three grown daughters and seven grandkids and don't need another responsibliity (grin). Secondly, the engine and transmission was a bit more than half the cost of a factory rebuilt 6V92. I will have additional costs, but the whole thing will be less than replacing the current engine. I am having new rod and mains installed as a preventative measure and the oil analysis for the engine looked good (of course you can't be sure how old the oil is which impacts the analysis). When they pull the old bearings, that should give a good indicator of the engine condition.

Jim
Peter Broadribb (Madbrit) (67.136.103.209)

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Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 12:02 pm:   

Jim,

I am glad you got good advice. I went through the whole conversion thing and then found out the autoshift would not talk to my DDEC 2 computer. I would have to update the whole thing to DDEC 3 or 4. That in itself was price prohibitive and was the same proceedure for me to install a World automatic too. Hence I have gone the HT740 route and intend to change the rear end gears to regain the overdrive I will have lost.

Btw, what did you pay for the autoshift assembly?

Peter.

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