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Marc (Mps9000) (4.181.164.180)

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Posted on Friday, June 04, 2004 - 6:55 pm:   

I just got a whopping property tax bill for my bus from my city (New Haven, CT). They seem to think my bus (a skoolie) is worth $12,160.00. At a mill rate of 39.53 per 1000, that comes to a whopping $480.68!!! I wonder if they are confusing it with the Blue Bird Wanderlodge? Has anyone else ever had this problem, and successfully contested the
assesment?
I plan to write a letter, but I just wanted to see if anyone had suggestions on what to say / what not to say.
My bus is a 1991 Blue Bird TC2000. Interior is empty - I've barely begun my conversion. It is titled as a motorhome, but it can't be worth more than a couple thousand in the shape its in! I wonder if the assesor would give me $12,000 for it? :-P

Thanks for any suggestions...
Marc
TWO DOGS (63.185.72.74)

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Posted on Friday, June 04, 2004 - 6:59 pm:   

wheeeeww....just got my tax...5 acres,27 vehicles one Eagle ,one house ,greenhouse,tractor shed,garage.....stand back.... .99 cents...
jimmci9 (209.240.205.68)

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Posted on Friday, June 04, 2004 - 10:02 pm:   

the only way to fight them is to show receipts for purchases.... documents....like a "comp" for insurance purposes...its hard to get an incomplete vehicle appraised... especially by someone with no experince with bus conversions...
mclough (65.137.130.210)

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Posted on Friday, June 04, 2004 - 10:53 pm:   

hmmm property tax bill on a vehicle?? you must live near taxachussettes!! hehe (i had to say that) i used to live there and now live in TN and we dont have a property tax on vehicles!!!

ill bet if you ask the tax assessor they will say that they use some sort of a blue book to determine value of bus.
Gene Lewis (Genelewis) (66.193.8.201)

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Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2004 - 12:14 am:   

Hey TWO DOGS do U have a neighbor??? Sounds like U R in the place some of us might just go for LOL.
Enjoying the journey in NC,
GL
TWO DOGS (63.185.96.7)

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Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2004 - 9:05 am:   

only neighbors are coyotees....live in the desert
Jim Ashworth (Jimnh) (172.209.242.6)

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Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2004 - 9:23 am:   

Connecticut is like that. RV's are charged at the local property tax rate. Most CT conversions are registered in SD or FL for this very reason. Just imagine, instead of your $12,000 skoolie, a $1,200,000 Prevost!!! More like $48,053 for 1 year's tax. WOW

Jim in moderate tax NH
Henry R. Bergman, Jr. (Henryofcj) (63.224.197.10)

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Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2004 - 3:23 pm:   

Wow!!! Property tax on a VEHICLE? No wonder we had the BOSTON TEA PARTY. In Oregon, we do not even have a state sales tax. (yet)

My tiny solar homestead years ago had a assessed value of right at $50,000 and the TOTAL property tax was a wopping $250.00. Oh well.
James Maxwell (Jmaxwell) (66.81.60.148)

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Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2004 - 10:26 pm:   

Henry: That must have been SOME yrs. ago because property tax rates in OR are outrageous, even higher than CA. Different states call it different things and impose it on different holdings in different ways. Matters not what they called it or how they got it. In Ct. he has property taxes on it. In CA, we have the VLF: same tax, different name, both outrageous.
NILES (4.4.112.82)

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Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2004 - 11:49 pm:   

hard to tax it if its not standing still - the answer is to KEEP MOVING

NILES
Loydd Fones (Tbird) (69.29.248.40)

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Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 12:15 am:   

property taxes in OR are 1.5% of appraised value
a $50,000 property would be $750.00
there is no property tax on anything with a liscense plate in Oregon. No sales tax either
not to bad

Tbird
busone (4.4.12.34)

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Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 1:42 am:   

Oregon still gets you. Take a look at your water/sewer bill. Also see what they charge for not wearing your seat belt, my friend did that one and paid dearly. If you are a smoker you are paying some really nice taxes. They also will call taxes here fees. Install a new porch light and see how much that permit fee costs. In the city of Sherwood the permit fees to build a new house will make your stomach turn. I cannot wait to move out of here. I will also remember not to move to CT.
FAST FRED (4.245.218.193)

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Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 5:39 am:   

Even more fun is CT wants to charge a tax on visiting boats (that are legally documented from other states) a USE tax for floating on Federal waters that happen to be in CT.

The greed of BuroRATS is almost too much to imagine!


EVERY 50 days WE must Flee CT for some other state MA RI NY to save over $300!

FAST FRED
Johnny (4.174.112.122)

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Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 12:05 pm:   

No property taxes on the bus yet...because, well, it isn't registered (friends with Transporter plates are a good thing!). Total tax on my entire vehicle fleet is something like $100, most of that for my 1992 F-350 (by far the newest vehicle). On 2 vehicles (1979 Coupe de Ville, 1974 AMC Gremlin X), I pay no property tax, since they're over 20 years old. For my car trailer (a 1994), the property tax was (get this) a whopping 38 cents.

For my house, it was, uhh, a good deal more than 38 cents. :(

I must say, though, that New hampshire plates on the fleet are sounding better and better...especially since registration prices are going up soon.
Stephen Fessenden (Sffess) (65.154.176.228)

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Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 9:09 pm:   

Fred, CT must be copying Hawaii on boat taxes.

Re: Seatbelt fines and cigarette taxes:
Fines for not wearing a seat belt and taxes on smoking are really just reasonable user fees. While some smokers and seatbelt shirkers pay their own way, we the public pick up a huge bill in unpaid medical expenses and disabilities for most. It is a proven fact that seat belts save lives and injuries and that smoking is a major health problem. The serious injuries seen in ERs from auto accidents are mostly non seatbelted people. Sure there are very rare cases where the seatbelt holds the person in an position where injury is worse, but those are one in 100,000. The other 99,999 accidents the seatbelt saves lives and injuries. They save face too. Without a seatbelt you can spend months being treated for facial fractures and never look the same again. And in a accident that would not even have required a hospital visit if a seatbelt had been worn.

When a person applies for early retirement to Social Security for smoking related disabilities it is not just their money that is being used. I'm not telling you not to smoke. Nicotine has positive effects for some people, but if you smoke, don't complain about paying your way.

While I am on my soapbox, the fines for redlight running in Florida ar way too low. I favor fines of about $750 for redlight running which KILLS and lay off the highway speeding tickets for safe drivers.
Johnny (4.174.103.197)

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Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 9:38 pm:   

Red-light running should be CRIMINAL. I think $5,000 fine, 90 days in prison, & 3 year suspension for the first offence is about right. Second time, $25,000 fine, 2 years, & lifetime revocation. Third time, $1,000,000,000 fine & life in prison.
TWO DOGS (65.177.145.181)

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Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 10:12 pm:   

lets just shoot 'em on the spot....have you noticed how aggressive girls are driveing these days....20 to 30...WILD....have been going 70 lots of times & look in rear view & there is a girl about two feet off the back of me.........................................whatever happened to the good ol' days...when women worked in sweat shops :)
Jim Ashworth (Jimnh) (172.132.18.166)

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Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 9:57 am:   

Gee I thought aggressive girl drivers were only a Boston phenomenon. Never knew it was nationwide. I usually yielded to them if they were cute. 'Cept once when she intentionally rammed me trying to merge after passing in the breakdown lane. Ever since then, always.

Jim
Henry R. Bergman, Jr. (Henryofcj) (63.224.197.10)

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Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 5:11 pm:   

Yeah, we are extremely lucky to live in SW Oregon and in an "O&C" county to boot. (Oregon and California logging railroad)

It's a long story, but the bottom line is that we have practically no property tax rate at all. Seems the $$$ slack is supposingly taken up by...

...logging receipts instead. Things ARE changing, but, thank goodness, slowly. I can NOT even imagine tax $rates$ described here.
busone (4.4.12.34)

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Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 7:21 pm:   

When I lived near Denver I always loved when it would snow and watch all the girls slide off the road in their SUVs. The best one whas a cute little blonde on her cell phone, she and her explorer went right off the side of the highway. After it landed on the roof she got out and kicked in the window. I bet her insurance is still lower than mine though.
Johnny (4.174.112.240)

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Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 8:45 pm:   

My wife drives a Cherokee--a 1986 Pioneer with 4 studded snow tires. She pulls out MEN in AWD cars & SUV's every winter.

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