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John that newguy (199.232.240.70)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 4:54 pm: | |
Ok. I checked the archives, didn't locate anything, and now feel safe asking:
On a 1979 MC9, is there a way to fix the door to make it easy to open
without the use of that inside handle or outside button?
For a seasoned bus driver it's a nuisance, but to a wife with arthritis, it
could be a living hell. |
Jack Conrad (Jackconrad) (207.30.189.60)
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Yes, Remove the dash handle assembly and install a truck type handle assembly in the door with the "nader" pin in the jamb. I wrote an article about doing this project that was published in the March, 2004 issue of bus Conversions Magazine. Hope this helps, Jack |
John the newguy (199.232.244.54)
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I wish I had a copy of the mag, Jack. (Now, all
I have to do, is find out what a "nader pin" is). |
Airless in Mississippi (69.92.6.103)
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Nader pin= SOMEONE VOTING FOR RALPH NADER? |
FAST FRED (4.245.149.71)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 5:33 am: | |
http://users.cwnet.com/~thall/FAST%20FRED.htm
Is a link from years ago , that explains how to do it.
Only caviat ,
DONT try it with a SOLID PLASTIC DOOR, only works in a real coach.
FAST FRED |
Jack Conrad (Jackconrad) (207.30.189.27)
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Years ago, occasionaly a car door would come open during an impact, throwing the occupant out. Ralph Naders safety crusade spurred the development of the modern door latches we see today. These are the latches that have a pin approx. 1/2" in diameter sticking out of the jamb. While they do keep the doors shut during an impact, the doors are more difficult to open by emergency crews. (Sometimes it is easier to cut the hinges). When this type latch was first installed on cars, we referred to to this pin as a "Nader pin". Your history lesson for today, Jack |
John the newguy (199.232.240.9)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 7:37 am: | |
HAH!! I knew -that-!
Seriously.... thanks, Jack!
(& FF)
(That's a Nader "pun", not "pin", AiM..) |
Jack Conrad (Jackconrad) (204.193.117.66)
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To see some photos of our truck type door latch installation go to http://members2.clubphoto.com/jack217421 and click on the Orange Bloosom Special II (volume 2) album. Jack |
S.M. Heath (66.82.50.1)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 10, 2004 - 12:37 pm: | |
I Never imagined CATS As Door Latches! I just can't figure-out how it works. Orange Bloosom Special II (volume2) I found on that Web-Page... Were Part Asian Lepord!? But Where IS the Door-Latch Realy??? |
Jack Conrad (Jackconrad) (207.30.189.86)
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Go to http://members2.clubphoto.com/jack217421 Click on the Orange Blossom Special II (volume 2) photo album. When this album opens, the door latch installation is the last 5 photos in this album. Hope this helps, Jack
PS: the album with the cats are our 2 Bengal Cats. They are 1/6th Asian Leopard. |
,S.M. Heath (66.82.50.1)
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Jack, Thanks for the directions. That Door Latch looks somewhat complex. I think I will just use a simple dead-bolt & door handle for now.(S M. H.). |
John that newguy (199.232.240.203)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, July 10, 2004 - 11:47 pm: | |
Thanks for the info on the latch, Jack! I might do with a handle and
dead-bolt for the time being also until I get going with the serious side
of things.
What did you use, if anything, to make the door easier to swing open
and closed?
Oh.... isn't there any way to utilize the existing door catch assembly?
It appears to have more substance than the catch for a lightweight
truck door.
I'd like to make the door as easy as possible for my wife.to unlock/open
and close/lock. |
Airless in Mississippi (69.92.6.103)
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Jack with the setup you have on the door lock does the air lock come into play at all?
That is does it use the air system? Or is it no longer needed? |
Jack Conrad (Jackconrad) (207.30.189.53)
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Although the air lock could be left in and controlled manually, we removed ours. By removing our air lock and the panel on the rearward side of the stair well, we were able to gain approx. 3 1/2" width for the new steps. Jack |
Jack Conrad (Jackconrad) (207.30.189.53)
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While using the OEM door opener, we noticed it quite a bit of effort to open and close the door. After removing the OEM opener, it was like a totally different door, no effort needed to open and close. We did leave the "limiting rod" that prevents tthe door from opening to far. This rod is under the dash inspection panel on the passenger side top of the dash. Jack |
John that newguy (199.232.244.89)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2004 - 8:15 am: | |
You did a helluva job, Jack! All your work and effort produced a unit
that FAR exceeds the quality of a commercially built RV. I thought about
printing out some pictures to give me some incentive, but quickly realized
that I just don't have enough energy anymore, to complete that kind of
a project. There's a ton of great ideas to work with, though and I'll
likely be stealing a few.
The truck door catch is a good idea. Unless I find some other way to
make use of the existing OEM air lock, I 'll likely be doing it your way.
The air lock on the bus I have, doesn't appear to function. The lever
under the dash, used to turn on/off the air, flops freely.
Gee... the more I look, the more I find wrong.. hmmm... Are all
used "church buses" like this? (rhetorical question) |
Jack Conrad (Jackconrad) (204.193.117.66)
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Thanks for the compliment. Working as a paramedic/firefighter (24 hours on/48 hours off), I have 2 days out of 3 to work on the bus. This certainly keeps me off the streets and out of trouble LOL.
You are welcome to "steal" any ideas that work for you. After all, I "stole" most of them from someone else.
Sounds like maybe the air supply to that manual switch has been disconnected. If this is true, it is probably because there was leak. There is also a micro switch under the dash at the base of the OEM door closer handle and a solenoid valve in the spare tire compartment. If the air lock is working, you should hear a sound coming from the air lock when you shut the door and push the handle to the "lock" position with the master switch on. Jack |
John that newguy (199.232.240.123)
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Thanks for the info Jack. I'll take a look later and see whazzhapinin'.
The more I look this bus over, the more wrong I find that needs fixing.
I'll have to consider it all as part of the hazing exercise to being a
member of the Bus Nut community. |
S.M. Heath (66.82.50.1)
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Looking A "Gift" Bus in the Front Door is like, Looking A "Gift" Horse in the Mouth. LOL. |
John that newguy (199.232.244.252)
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Horse talk?
I always said that I don't have to know what it's been fed, cuz if it
looks like HS at the end, it's prolly is. |
S.M. Heath (66.82.50.1)
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John that new guy, Most Schooly's Have Back-Doors, Does that MC9? (I don"t mean the Eng. Compartment). HS?... I was just BS'ing a little. Hope that was not taken as offensive, Not ment to be Offensive. |
John that newguy (199.232.240.226)
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Never offensive, SM! Don't worry 'bout it!
Naww, no back door, 'cept for the toilette'.
I doubt that'd count as a "back door"? |