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harry edwards (66.18.162.193)

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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 11:46 pm:   

Fast Fred: I am a newbie; Have been reading you answers and input to this post for over a year. Much impressed with your knowledge of marine items; adapted to RV use.
Am rewiring a GM 4104 and would like to use the following items from Blue Sea Marine supply. http://store.wmjmarine.com/c14573.html
PN 9005 ON/OFF battery switch with key, PN 8080 Circuit Breaker Battery Switch Panel DC parrallel, Servive panel PN 8084 has 8 X 120 VAC breakers-16 X 12 VDC breakers . Want to set all these up on a master panel wall in the coach.
Will these work ??
Would appreciate you input.

Harry in New Mexico --- 1954 GM 4104
FAST FRED (4.245.191.176)

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Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 6:13 am:   

PN 9005 ON/OFF battery switch with key will be OK to secure house side if no huge inverter is used , BUT it's not strong enough for Starting (1200) amps.

The rest of the goodies are fine , tho a bit marine pricy.

The place to go is Dania FL in April , there fleamarket has goodies (used) that cost 1/3 and are as new.

But its a long time to April and lots of miles.

Boat stuff is built to the 3 rd highest standard (NASA & aircraft are better but extra $$$) where house stuff is built to lowest standard that may pass UL , and has no qualities ('cept low cost ) that are usefull/desirable for a conversion.

The boat stuff is harder to work with in DC as the wiring needed is heavy , hard to bend and the boxes ect are small to save space.
AT least everything is designed for a mooving, bouncing vehicle.

I believe it makes the finest conversion setup , esp if the wiring and terminal ends are properly done.

Before you convert , get DA Book and attempt to figure out what existing wiring can be saved, as it too is done properly .

EG if you stick the house batts up on the pax side where the old blowers were there is a fine GM heavy wire running back to the rear , USE IT?

Many circuits can be converted as there no longer in use , speaker system can power small overhead lamps , if LED are chosen.

Lots of fun to contemplate
, the sledge hammer is tool of last NOT FIRST resort,

at least for me,

FAST FRED
Harry Edwards (66.18.162.203)

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Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 11:42 pm:   

Reply to Fast Fred - Blue Sea panels
Tank you for the excellent answers;
Could I parrallel two of the switches to handle the current?
Don't think I can get to Fla.
Are you going to Fla ? I would pay you to find the items for me; as well as the shipping cost.
The 8084 breaker panel was $ 439.00 and the switch panel was $ 119. 00.
Are these prices fair ? My wife and I enjoy your posts very much; and hope to meet you and your family late next year; when we stat full time RVing.
Harry in New Mexico
FAST FRED (4.247.13.17)

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Posted on Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 5:30 am:   

If the switch is to turn off the batts an old MCI switch CAN handle the starting load, by design.

Spom can be cable operated , so your disconect /reconect could be EZ er.

Best I have seen is where the coach start stays stock and the house is broken off and used completly seperatly.

A simple RV relay (or better) with the addition of a std key switch allows seamless operation.

Start up and drive off , the systems are combined , shut down , your a camper again.

IF you installed one of the good door locks , it came with spair cylinders and locks. One in the door , one cylinder in the "ignition/start" switch , and the locks on the fuel and waste covers , all for one price.

I will be at Dania , next April, a long wait for a DC system.

FAST FRED
Rts/Daytona (63.184.208.68)

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Posted on Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 5:12 pm:   

hmmm - only 30 AMP mains
FAST FRED (4.245.212.134)

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Posted on Friday, July 16, 2004 - 5:40 am:   

Marine AC panels come in any size your wallet can handle.

30A is most common for small (35ft or so )boats as air cond is not common on very small boats (yet).

AS no small boater is insane enough to cook aboard with electric ,
the usual loads are batt charger, TV, Hw heater and maybe small heater or microwave.

Once you get into the bigger boats the 240V 50A split as we use in coaches becomes common.

These folks will have 24/7 gensets burried in sound boxes , and need the power line to secure the genset.They cook with electric.

Works fine BUT most marinas that provide anything more than 30A 120V WILL have a measuring device , and its usually 25c a KW or more.

Even at $2.00 to $3.00 a foot per night , paying for ones electric use is the norm.

On a small bus camper two 30A ( For the 240V sites) legs will usually suffice to run most everything , particularly if the Granger load shedding relays are installed to maximise , but limit the power draw.

Works for me,

FAST FRED

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