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pat tierney (68.116.113.248)

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Posted on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 2:08 pm:   

any body have info on how rare a 1953 g.m. 4104 with a factory door w/steps on passenger side is,if at all. thanks pat.
Doug (69.244.108.42)

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Posted on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 5:50 pm:   

how do you know it is original factory?
Jim Stacy (209.247.222.85)

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Posted on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 9:42 pm:   

I have a '53 4104 (076) with rear escape door but no steps. I have looked at a lot of '04s but never seen a step. Is this something someone has added?

Jim Stacy
Ole Bubba (166.102.69.94)

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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 6:16 am:   

Pat,

Are you talkin' 'bout the passenger door (in the front) or escape door (in the back)?

Ole Bubba
charles seaton (205.183.220.106)

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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 9:34 am:   

That would have been one heck of a special order. Never seen nor heard of one.
John that newguy (199.232.240.250)

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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 9:52 am:   

Not talking about a 5104, or a 5304, ehh?
DrivingMissLazy (66.168.175.51)

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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 11:56 am:   

"with a factory door w/steps on passenger side"

Mine did and every 4104 I have ever seen has a passenger door with steps on the passenger side. How else would you get in the bus?
Richard
John that newguy (199.232.240.154)

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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 12:32 pm:   

Haha... I assumed he meant the side exit doors.. As in line service.
mbbe not, ehh?
DrivingMissLazy (66.168.175.51)

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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 1:41 pm:   

Maybe the emergency exit door.
Richard
Jim-Bob (12.46.52.74)

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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 3:12 pm:   

Maybe he means "Front passenger door (one piece) with steps plus emergency door in rear on driver's side". If so, they all had that.

Come on, Pat. Explain yourself!
John tHaT nEwGuY (199.232.240.154)

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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 3:28 pm:   

(I bet he typed that just to drive us crazy)
Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary) (209.128.79.46)

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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 3:32 pm:   

It's not a drive, lad, only a wee walk.
John that newguy (199.232.244.102)

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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 3:53 pm:   

(Mmmphhhhhkkkgrumble)
Jim Ashworth (Jimnh) (172.136.31.120)

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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 4:33 pm:   

Give him a break, guys. In the title he wrote "4104 rear factory door". In the text it says it is a passenger side door with steps. Seems like it may have been used as a transit bus with front and rear doors. I've never heard of one, but I am more familiar with MCI & Prevost.

Hopefully he can get a photo of it on here and we can all find out just what he has.

Jim
Doug (69.244.108.42)

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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 4:38 pm:   

Well to put the story to rest a bit........

there were several 4104's that had a center, curb side exit door. I do not believe any of them came from Pontiac that way, but were retrofitted at a conversion company like Custom Coach. That Center door was one of their trademarks along with the porthole windows.

I have seen on in Santa Barbara that was set up this way and had a cadilac of the same vintage mated onto the top....top of the doors to the roof.

Budwiser had an 04 with a center curb side door as well
pat tierney (68.116.113.248)

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Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 12:01 pm:   

from pat tierney,boy never thought i would sart such a mess.i will again try to explain,i have a 1953 g.m.4104 with the usual passenger front entry door w/steps.to the rear of this door and just in front of the rear wheels i have another entry door with three steps going up into the bus.to the best of my obsarvations i cannot observe where this was added to the bus other than at the factory.it has a push in locking device on the door and the key that unlocks it has g.m. marked on it. cant wait to see what this added message generates.pat
John that newguy (199.232.240.66)

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Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 2:07 pm:   

Pictures, Pat...... pictures..

(we just gotta' see this...pant-pant-pant)
Jim Bob (12.46.52.74)

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Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 3:51 pm:   

Pat, whoever put that door there, you've got a rare animal. As stated above, we need pictures!
Doug (69.244.108.42)

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Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 8:18 pm:   

I still stick with the aftermarket Custom Coach Scenerio........Custom Coach around the same time was also building their own coaches and was more than capable to install something that looked factory.

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