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Steve Neely (66.225.4.5)

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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2004 - 8:01 pm:   

I have a 8V-71T that had problems. After having it pulled apart I found size 80 injectors. Pedco in California built it. The motor has a cracked head and bad rings from over heating. What size injector would be best for long life and OK HP? I don't think it has an after cooler.
RJ Long (Rjlong) (67.181.236.27)

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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2004 - 9:19 pm:   

The simple answer to your question:

It depends. . .

What coach is this motor in? A lightweight GMC or heavier MCI, Prevost or Eagle?

Basically, since you've got the engine torn down, here are your options:

~ Standard timing w/ N60 injectors = 275 hp

~ Advanced ("A") timing w/ N65 injectors = 304 hp (often called 318 by the truckers)

~ Standard timing, N75 injectors plus adding a turbocharger = 350 hp

~ Standard timing, 7C75 injectors, adding a turbocharger plus an after cooler (if your block will support it) = 370 hp

Best fuel mileage and longevity will be w/ the N60s, which is what most bus companies used.

How fast you want to go also translates into how often you want to stop for fuel. . .

While you've got it apart, get a Jake brake installed, too. Well worth the extra bucks.

HTH,

RJ
PD4106-2784
Fresno CA
Geoff (Geoff) (66.238.120.69)

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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2004 - 9:46 pm:   

Go with N75's. BTW, I was at a MAK Bus Convention a few years back, and one of the speakers at a re-power seminar was Virgil Cooley from PEDCO. I specifically remember him saying that 8V71T's were notorious for overheating the heads, and he recomended going with the aftercooled (8V71TA) engine. Humm...

--Geoff
'82 RTS CA
Dwight (67.213.8.162)

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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2004 - 11:50 pm:   

I do not know what kind of H.P. you need but I am running a regular 8v71 with 18.1 compression pistons an added a turbo with out the aftercooler and N70 injectors, have 5000 miles and no overheating problems yet, about 330 H.P.
FAST FRED (4.245.188.247)

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 5:14 am:   

"How fast you want to go also translates into how often you want to stop for fuel. . .'

To expand on RJ's correct info, most coaches go as fast as you wish ,on the Level.

The ONLY advantage to hot rodding is HILLCLIMBING.

Sure there will be a slight benifit in all full throttle accelerations ,
but the hills are where you will notice any power increase.

Unfortunatly some left coast hills are LONG , so the hot rod coach will always suffer potental problems with overheating.

Overheating is the easiest way to KILL any DD.

$10-$14K rebuilds for 10 min, "Saved"?

Caviat Emptor,

FAST FRED
Marc Bourget (209.142.38.81)

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 9:17 am:   

More like:

Caveat Stompor (too much foot in the throttle)

Caveat Non-shiftor (Too high a gear)

Even a hot rodded coach will survive if a prudent driver will take away some foot and a gear,

But then the speed parts are simply a waste of money to match the extra fuel going out the tail pipe!

Onward and Upward

Marc Bourget
John Rigby (65.112.227.94)

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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 10:27 am:   

I agree with FF. As those left coast hills have got me twice. Not to the tune of $10k but two cylinder head gaskets on my 671 in the last 18 years.Hopefully my new rad core has put an end to that.
John
John Rigby (Unregistered Guest)

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Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2004 - 8:28 am:   

Just checking to see were and how this would appear.

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