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mclough (63.235.52.168)

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Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 10:24 am:   

Wow what an experience i had on the way home from the race at Talladega ,AL. i was rolling north at about 67 mph in the(granny lane)the right one when all of a sudden the bus took a hard left and was across a lane heading for the soft grassy medium strip. i knew i had a blow out on the front drivers side and if we hit that soft stuff id end up on my side . with all the muscles i had i managed to get the bus to the breakdown lane without hitting anyone. (that was a true act of God).
i hope that never happens again. i tottally dont understand why tho. the tires appear to be in good condition and were at proper inflation???
TWO DOGS (63.185.81.3)

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Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 11:21 am:   

I had 100 blowouts on the rear...& ONE on the steer axel....THAT was one of the worst experiences of my life...I drove big trucks for years..always told the boss...you can put whatever you want on the rear,if something is wrong with the steer tire,I will pull it over & will go NOWHERE till it is fixed...sounds like everything was o.k. (BUT)..bump all your tires...everytime...and GET DOWN and REALLY look at your steer tires...everytime...before you get in the bus..
don (Bottomacher) (66.216.217.11)

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Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 8:20 pm:   

Do you have power steering?
TWO DOGS (63.185.82.33)

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Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 8:37 pm:   

what does that have to do with it...a 24.5 tire blowing out is like a stick of dinamite going off,ya' can see grip marks in the seat afterwards
Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary) (68.79.101.181)

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Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 9:27 pm:   

HAHAHA.....


Oh the pictures in my head....


Gary
Marc Bourget (209.142.38.81)

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Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 11:32 pm:   

Yeah,

Hooray for prehensile hemmoroids!

They'll keep you in your seat despite the emergency!

Onward (but firmly seated!)

Marc Bourget
mclough (65.137.130.234)

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Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 9:32 am:   

actually dogs i have the 22.5 lo pro tires but it still was a handful. and NO i do not have power steering. a friend of mine who drives a big truck told me that it was a good thing i didnt because i would have OVER CORRECTED and that would have flipped the bus more easilly.

yes i just checked my wheel and you can see my finger imprints on the wheel and my wife is throwing away the pants i was wearing. it is very scarry to be on a 20k-40k pound bus at 65 mph and having very limited control.
Marc Bourget (209.142.38.81)

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Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 10:59 am:   

Two Dogs,

Re the last 5 blowouts I've experienced, 2 were "explosive" and 3 were "funny noise" heard first,

No warning to the blowouts and much body damage resulted.

Guess the "real" blowouts made me listen more carefully.

One of the "blows" was on an new, unloaded trailer with less than 2000 miles. Guy driving behind me pulled over all excited as to how "spectacular" it was to see! [Couldn't understand my instinctive reflex or urge to punch him out. I musta been [more] temp insane than usual, LOL!!]

What do you "listen for" when you bump your tires. They don't ring with a "bell tone", but there must be more to it than a "thump" noise

I learned to check my tires (not having good ear pitch) by "palm" checking for temperature variations.

You mentioned "pull over" - what say you about heavy brake application when encountering tire trouble?

Your comments to the last few points are appreciated.

TIA

Marc
Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary) (209.128.79.46)

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Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 11:09 am:   

Actually you're supposed to floorboard it to unload the steer axle and then gradually slow down.

Thankfully I've never had to put this into practice....

Gary
Derek (Derek_L) (24.83.196.239)

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Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 11:17 am:   

"You mentioned "pull over" - what say you about heavy brake application when encountering tire trouble? "

Absolutely, under no circumstance, do not EVER, under any condition, hit the brakes when you've had a blowout...
mclough (65.137.130.210)

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Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 12:20 pm:   

WHO had the time to THINK about the brakes!!! i was so busy trying to control the wheel that i didnt even think about brakes until i was already back in breakdown lane and then bus was slowing already (i stalled it i guess) because by the time i went to apply brakes i was already stopped on side of road with engine stalled out. and i was shaking.
TWO DOGS (63.185.65.78)

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Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 1:13 pm:   

that's a real live 'no shitter'....every blowout is different,you can't "PLAN" on what to do,SO many things enter into the problem...main thing is getting & keeping control...I entered every day with the hopes of "not killing somebody today"...sounds corney,I guess to some of you...
Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary) (209.128.79.46)

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Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 2:47 pm:   

that's what I think about when I read the "What do do in the case of a front blowout" list, Hope I never have to find out, but I can imagine sitting on the side of the road thinking:

"Oh Yeah, I was supposed to stomp on the throttle, then I was suppose to um, what was that again...?"

Gary
FAST FRED (4.245.230.199)

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Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 5:18 am:   

What was the age of the tires that blew?

FAST FRED
ChuckMC9 (Chucks) (66.167.143.229)

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Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 7:52 am:   

If you want to know more about accelerating post-blowout, see the 'Critical Factor' presentation on this site...

Michelin RV Tire Information Videos
mclough (65.137.131.29)

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Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 9:03 am:   

fred,

the tires where 4 yrs old and looked like they had plenty of miles left on them.
FAST FRED (4.245.221.99)

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Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 1:25 pm:   

Would be interested in knowing the brand so I can steer clear of them forever!

Had they been run at speed underinflated /

Or just a bad batch?

Might report this to the gov folks that keep track of auto/truck safty reports.

Did you examine the tire to determine the cause of catastropic failures?

FAST FRED
mclough (63.235.53.217)

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Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 2:50 pm:   

fred,

i believe they were dunlops and no they were not underinflated. i had them at 100 psi .

i looked at tire but could not figure out why??? it looked like a retread that came apart but it wasnt a retread.
John Rigby (24.174.238.253)

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Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 11:28 pm:   

Mclough,
I thought our bus had power assist?
Anyway a few months ago I had a blow out, front passenger.Bridgeston ( they replaced both front tyres ) I have power assist and 15years ago I installed safteyplus.
70 MPH I in the passing lane and was able to keep the coach stieght, safteyplus $495.00 great insurance aginst having the steering wheel pulled out of your hand.
John
PS Please replace all 6 tyres just in case.
Jim Stacy (209.247.222.88)

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Posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 10:59 pm:   

Those 4yr old tires could have been 5 years old when purchased. Always a good idea to check date on side of tire.

BTW Tire mfgs swear the aligators on the road are not the retread treads we believe they are but tread separations of original tires. Usual claimed cause: underinflated for load, heat breakdown. Not that this tire could not have had an internal breakdown.

That laser-pointed remote thermometer is great for a tire check at every rest stop. Could save a life, maybe yours.

Jim Stacy

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