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| Bill Butler (Unregistered Guest)
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Seems to me, that with fuel at $2.38 per gallon a lot of buses will end up in the back yard with laying hens in them. | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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I've been planning on a 33 Dodge Street rod with a 392 Hemi. I'm starting to think about a cool looking four-banger. Gary | ||
| Johnny (Unregistered Guest) Rating: N/A |
How about a Cummins 4BT?  Maybe a slant 6? | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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A Diesel-Rod...Now that's original.... Already done the /6 thang. Gary | ||
| David & Lorna Schinske (Davidschinske)
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Or even more folks will be looking into veggie oil systems. Some guy is running a diesel skoolie (www.skoolie.net) on veggie oil and keeping everyone posted as to his success/failures. Does keep one thinking.... Lorna | ||
| Henry R. Bergman, Jr. (Henryofcj)
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How about repowering about a '92 Metro Geo with one of those new electronic, turboed, intercooled 1.0 liter 50hp 3 cylinder diesels? Then you would have a good toad with the capability of getting over 65 mpg? Yeah, we will be seeing VERY high fuel prices!  | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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I don't think a repowered geo will get into many shows... Gary | ||
| ktrout01 (Unregistered Guest) Rating: N/A |
Benz is importing the A Class this year to Canada with the 70mpg diesel. It's hopeful that they can get it into the US the following year. Until then I'll have to be happy with the 53mpg that my Jetta TDI gets. My bus gets 10mog on a good day. | ||
| don (Bottomacher)
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There's a fellow in Maryland who makes the street rod circuit (amateur) with a T roadster pickup powered by a Ford (International?) diesel v-8. Very clever, and a fine job of it. I've put a Mercedes 220 diesel into my 85 Ranger pickup toad; fuel mileage should make me smile, but the top speed probably won't. | ||
| Ed Jewett (Kristinsgrandpa)
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The repowered Geo might get better mileage but, the 0 to 60 time would be about 3 days. Later Ed. | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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My wife has a 240D that she left in the bay area. (She really misses the thing) the 4cyl-4spd gets somewhere over 40MPG. Gary | ||
| Lin (Unregistered Guest) Rating: N/A |
Doesn't a gas fired Geo get about 50 mpg anyway? We had an old Sprint 3 cylinder that we used as a toad for years that logged in the mid-40"s. | ||
| Rob Talbot (Unregistered Guest)
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I just did the figures for taking my bus on a 750 mile round trip including camp ground fees and fuel prices compared to 4 day trip with my Saturn VUE and staying in lodging for $100/night (which is not even close to the accomodations in our bus). Even with estimating fuel prices of 2.12/gallon at 6 mpg I am going to break even, but when I include the savings for eating two out of three meals in the bus I save over $160 driving the bus. I feel a little better after figuring it out, but I am still really disappointed in the fuel prices. Apparently the use of diesel has risen sharply because of all the new pickups with diesel and many buying cars with diesel. The higher demand is actually driving diesel to increase over the last week while unleaded has dropped. Additionally, other countries like Asia are using more diesel which is also taking away the surplus available to the USA. If we keep buying prices will keep raising. | ||
| Bruce Henderson (Oonrahnjay)
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Rob Talbot wrote: "Apparently the use of diesel has risen sharply because of all the new pickups with diesel and many buying cars with diesel. The higher demand is actually driving diesel to increase over the last week while unleaded has dropped. Additionally, other countries like Asia are using more diesel which is also taking away the surplus available to the USA. " __. Diesel pickups are a tiny part of fuel use in the US and diesel cars are a miniscule part. The big factor is that diesel fuel is pretty much the same refinery product as home heating oil. Since having old ladies die in the cold makes a real hard situation for politicians, they'd make it unpleasant for oil companies if they didn't skew everything toward heating oil, especially early in the winter. (Also, the fuel companies who operate on a "automatic delivery" system to homes tend to fill peoples' furnace tanks early in the winter when prices are high and their margins are plump.) So, diesel fuel is comparitively scarce in late autumn. __. What's been done in the past is that oil companies have imported fuel from Europe and the Caribbean. Europe has traditionally had a large number of diesel vehicles so their stocks of fuel tend to be higher -- but not so this year. And Caribbean/Gulf of Mexico oil production is *way* down because of hurricanes. (Since a lot of the diesel fuel in SE US comes from the Hess refinery in St. Croix, US Virgin Islands, our prices are a good bit lower than other places. The worst prices are California ["air quality" laws have been used to dictate a special fuel - this allows the suppliers to dictate prices] and the "NorthWest" -- Washington State/Oregon -- [because they're so far from the European "buffer", again allowing the gougers a free hand]). There's some truth to the effect of higher use in Asia, etc., but it's really a minor effect (but minor effects can be used by the gougers). __. Things will get better after mid-winter but they'll gouge us for all they can until then. __. So, there's a (relative) scarcity of diesel fuel. There's not really enough of a scarcity to justify the price rises that we've seen, but there's enough of a scarcity to allow the gougers to get away with it. Bruce Henderson, Wallace NC | ||
| Marc Bourget (Unregistered Guest) Rating: N/A |
Bruce, You show good knowledge and discuss well the factors that effect fuel pricing. Here in California the objective commentators claim that the efforts of the "greenies" or tree huggers blocking new or expanded refineries is the biggest single factor in the fuel cost cycle as it reduces price competition. Would you weigh in on that? Seems transportation costs from V.I., would be susbstantial. TIA | ||
| Stan (Unregistered Guest) Rating: N/A |
Marc: It costs the same to transport refined fuel as crude oil. Imported refined product is restricted by the great variety of laws in each state. For example fuel in the pipeline that is sold in Arizona cannot be sold in California. Foreign refiners fill a tanker with one grade of fuel and then the importer has to find a state where he can sell it. Sometimes the issue of state's rights get in the way of commerce. | ||
| Bruce Henderson (Oonrahnjay)
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Marc wrote: "Here in California the objective commentators claim that the efforts of the "greenies" or tree huggers blocking new or expanded refineries is the biggest single factor in the fuel cost cycle as it reduces price competition. Would you weigh in on that? Seems transportation costs from V.I., would be susbstantial. " __. Yes, the problem of limited refinery capacity in CA is an important factor which contributes to the effect of limited supply/little price competition in the State. It's all a mixture -- all adding up to higher prices (artificially) in CA. __. The V.I. refinery was built specifically to process Venezuelan crude (in fact, Hess sold a part of the refinery to the Ven. government a couple of years back). As Stan says, it costs about the same to transport refined product as crude, so it's just a stop on the way. (IIRC, Venezuela supplies about 14% of US imported oil.) __. In addition to all this, don't forget the fine efforts of the people that you elected and are paying a lot of money to so that they can slam every tax that they can think of on fuel. __. It's a wide and complicated subject but these are some of the more important factors. But it mostly comes down to competition (from abroad), lack of competition in the US, taxes and government actions, and price gouging. Bruce Henderson, Wallace NC (60MPG VW Jetta Diesel/11 MPG Daimler Fleetline Leyland O-680 engine double-decker bus) | ||
| Tony (Unregistered Guest) Rating: N/A |
Bruce The real reason for the fuel prices to be up Is The Oil Co's Is partly owned by the Bush,Chaney republican administration and they have a feeling that they will no longer be In the position to run the prices up so they are doing It now while they are In office, when Clinton was In office and the same thing took place he opened up the reserve and put the refiners kept fuel prices down, don't think for one minute that when the oil prices are established that they will ever come down, They wont, It all boils down to the same thing that has been going on for centuries the Democrats are for the poor people the Republicans are for the Rich, It could not have been explained to me any better, the other day I overheard a guy telling a friend of his that If you are Rich Vote Republican, If you are not you had better vote Democrat. Tony | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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Can we not have this here? "the other day I overheard a guy telling a friend" Yeah, he was my second cousin's nephew's best friend's cousin, thrice removed. Even if you were making any valid points, go find a political forum to rant on. Gary | ||
| NEO/Russ (Unregistered Guest) Rating: N/A |
"Not seeing the forest for the trees" so true. I run a small company that produces trailer parts, mainly from hot rolled steel. Shortly after the latest administration took over the White House we received a steel tariff and since then our cost of steel has risen from $21 per hundred pounds to over $50 per hundred (for the alloy and temper we use). Some of this was caused by the Chinese growth and some by increasing demands, but when the dust settled we now have 3 steel companies that produce 80%+ of all the steel in the U.S. and that is pure GREED! They have worked the system and the government can't stop it, but they fed it by the tariff. The brains in the fuel industry have seen this happening, they are also manipulating supplies and refining and things like hurricanes and "the China demand" have fed their greed. These heavy hitters in steel and oil have lobbyists and give big dollars to the candidates. It doesn't matter what we do at our level, it's all going on at the golf courses and in boardrooms. America had 44% of all households working in manufacturing in 1954 and today it is 11.4% and rapidly sinking. And no one in government is doing anything to change it. The best we can do at this level is to pass along tips about things that work, i.e. what improvements in MPG have we experinced, not read about, that really do work and what is the true payback. What is the best toad for maximum MPG and how to tow it. What oil filter systems give the maximum range of oil between changes, etc. Stop the pontificating (Marc and others). Pull together, not drive us apart. This is a great hobby, but just like when I grew up in the 50's the homebrewed streetrods disappeared because dealer bought muscle cars could be bought and who bought them -those with the bucks, not those who work with their hands. People like FF, Gary, Diesel Dave, and even Ace give us the tips that work, and they seem honest enough to tell us when they fail. They give you the knowledge that the "system" has taken from schools to work with your hands, listen and learn. | ||
| Tony (Unregistered Guest) Rating: N/A |
Hey School Bus Gary what Is the matter don't you want to look at reality, are you one of the Lobbyist or are you just dumb. Tony | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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Yeah that must be it, I'm just dumb, can we get back to Busses now? Gary | ||
| TWO DOGS (Unregistered Guest) Rating: N/A |
you will need another transmisson in your school bus...don't worry about the street rod | ||
| Marc Bourget (Unregistered Guest) Rating: N/A |
Neo/Russ Back in 1991 a well respected economist by the name of Peter Drucker wrote a predictive article regarding the (then) eventuality of "off shore" job flight. The premise relied upon was one of economic efficiency. 1st world countries put a much greater investment (huge! by comparison) in educating the future workforce than the 3d world countries. Yet 3d world workers can quickly match (usually 2-3yrs) the production of the more expensively educated 1st World workers. Thus he predicted that blue collar jobs would migrate to 3d world countries, simply because the greatly lessened tax burden with virtually identical production efficiency. In fact, Disney proved that a production goal of "zero" defects was obtainable about that time and greatly accellerated the shift to this paradigm. 1st worlder's would secure an advantage by putting their more extensive and EXPENSIVE education to work, developing new technology and information systems sufficient to utilize that technology. What most 1st worlder's who have been unnexpectedly "caught" by the change don't realize is their failure to switch over to control of "information" rather than production mimics that of dinosaurs who couldn't adapt to (relatively) rapid changes in their environment. Pay more attention to an IBM "connectivity" add. They're about 10 years behind the times. On another subject, by Tony, above. Tony, IMHO, you're clueless. This theory or approach is the result of rumor, inuendo not backed by intelligent analysis of facts. Even if what you said were true, there are much greater factors at play that would disassemble such an attempt before it got off the ground. You need to call into Michael Medved talk radio Show the next "conspriacy day". He'd enjoy your call. Don't "grouse" go investigate, then get back to us with facts not rumors. Sorry, Gary, back to busses. Onward and Upward Marc Bourget | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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Hey man, are you kiddin? thanks. There are some doors I shouldn't walk through, this is definitely one of them. Gary | ||
| Norm Edlebeck (Bandleader)
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Has anyone here ever looked at this website: www.tilleyfoundation.com - Carl Tilley has an invention where he uses 12 off the shelf 12 volt batteries to power an automobile,(144 volts) practically FOREVER, without ever having to plug it in, recharge it by any outside source, or change batteries. Maybe we should contact him to expand on this to power our buses!! Click on to the automobile on his home page and see what the state of Tenn. has done to try to kill his project. Big Brother is here now fellow Busnuts - make no mistake about it!!! | ||
| Marc Bourget Rating: N/A |
Dear Norm, Virtual perpetual energy? There's plenty of ways of proving Mr. Tilley's concept (if in fact it exists) objectively, by indisputable means, that wouldn't involve an automobile and a test that could be interrupted by a failed wheel bearing. I think I saw a comment that the deLorean only had 22,000 miles. What could possibly cause a wheel bearing to fail after that short mileage, mayhaps a hidden battery pack? I read many statements of opinion but no statements of fact. Since they have an operating example, the car that hasn't been seized. I'd like to see some instrumentation of that car that showed the original state of charge of the batts, records the power, in amps, being used by the car as it's running and, finally, the state of charge of the batts after it comes in after it's test run. This way he could demonstrate the power efficiency without revealing his technology. We can independently measure the horsepower necessary to run the car down the road by "coast down" tests which can be verified by the amps supplied to the motor. The before/during/after readings on the batts' current flow would tell us that the batts weren't delivering - and the car wasn't using - the amount of energy we know is necessary to match (from the coast down tests and amperage flow) what we already know it takes to run the car down the road. Asimov, I believe, once wrote a science fiction book that theorized supernovas occurred because someone had figured a way of robbing power from stars in another dimension. The "robbing" got things out of balance to the result that the star went "nova". I wonder how Mr. Tilley brought Asimov's fiction to reality? Like my comment to Tony, there are plenty of greedy people with sufficient assets and where-with-all. George Soros, for example, to nip a "Republican" power conspiracy in the bud. The tests I described would prove the point without requiring revealing Mr. Tilley's secrets Why haven't these irrefutable evaluations been performed. I'd like to know the identities and contact information of the alleged engineers who gave "statements" on the website. Remember years ago when the Hunt Bros attempted to monoploize the Silver Markets? People banded together to block that selfish move. Sufficient means exist (a secret this important can't be kept for long) to block the "oil companies" from sequestering the information. There's too much money to be made and public benefit to be realized for this to work otherwise. IMHO, another unprovable conspiracy theory involving a perpetual motion machine. Onward and Upward Marc Bourget | ||
| LABryan Rating: N/A |
Hey, Marc: Who are the "objective commentators" from whom you heard that the high price of fuel in California is significantly caused by "tree huggers" blocking refinery construction? That may be part of the problem, but I think market manipulation in a time of actual shortage is a bigger influence at the moment. In the last few months Shell announced that it would close its Bakersfield CA refinery -- which makes over 10% of California's diesel supply. Initially the company refused to even consider selling the refinery to a new operator. Just shutting it down. Under significant govt. and public pressure the company agreed to reconsider. Latest news report I saw (LA Times -- maybe not objective) was that the company now agrees to sell the refinery only, but none of the adjacent pumping and storage facilities, so no buyer has come forward as refinery standing alone is not very useable. I have no doubt that environmental concerns impact all industrial expansion here in CA, including refineries, but that does not explain shutting down a working refinery. It seems clear that market manipulation is also at play. The oil companies seem to have learned well from Enron's now-public play book. I don't claim to know all the facts, and I don't think I am a conspiracy theorist. Perhaps there is some serious problem with this particular refinery which I have not seen reported in the press. But, absent that, it does beg the question of why a major oil company would shut down a working refinery in this time of high demand, high prices, and very high oil company profits, doesn't it? Bryan | ||
| Niles Rating: N/A |
there are no scientific theories or physical facts to support Tilley's claims - there is however a resonable explanation - IT'S A SCAM - PLAIN AND SIMPLE - Niles | ||
| Derek (Derek_l)
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What's the difference between a pile of crap and politics? A pile of crap will eventually dry up and stop smelling like shit.. | ||
| Marc Bourget Rating: N/A |
Dear LABryan I don't recall, else I would have mentioned their names. Note that I wasn't using their comments as authority, only as a basis to prompt discussion. For instance, I didn't say that someone's post was "wrong" based on the commentators, just "what are your thoughts?" in view of these comentators. Hope you didn't take me otherwise! I agree with your cnocerns regarding the shut down of the Bakersfield refinery. I have a good friend that worked down there for Union Oil for years, but I haven't questioned him about this. Will have to do so. I heard part of the concern of Shell was the old technology used to build the plant when electricity was cheaper. It is alleged that there is now way this aged design can be competitive in todays energy market. That being the case, it's not fair to the shareholders to force loosing money. At the same time, why doesn't the state agency allow them, even support the building of a new facility. IIRC, that's a problem too. You seem to be more current in info than me. I was attempting to "mine" the collective knowledge of the BB, have you any more to offer? Onward and Upward | ||
| FAST FRED Rating: N/A |
"America had 44% of all households working in manufacturing in 1954 and today it is 11.4% and rapidly sinking. And no one in government is doing anything to change it." Thank GOD!!! 100-200 years Prior to that about 95% of the citizens were doing the usual 15 hour days as farmers and the stoop labor farm familes do. NO loss that were all not substance farmers today . If you look at the amount of mfd. goods, they are at a record high (with fewer people) , as are our mfd goods exports. Its called PRODUCTIVITY , and ours has been Growing at 9% a year for a long time. The growth in productivity is not great for the high skool dropout that was making $35 an hour putting hub caps on a Chebby. Unless he bothers to learn a trade that has value ,his income will be down forever. SAD but needed , as the working population is begining to shrink drastically , as the Baby Boomers hope for retirement. With ZERO money (as designed in the '30's) the Socialist "Security " is broke. The only way payments can be made to the folks dreaming of someone elses cash for retirement is with a Productive and Vibrant society , that can tax away current income from the fewer remaining workers . Since the SS promises are so huge the remaining Ponzi participants (2040) would need 65% of there income put JUST in SS , with the remainder going to run the rest of the Burorat Bloat , and feed their familys too. This would surly cause a Tax Revolt , so increasing productivity is truly a blessing . The "Not in my back yard" selfishness of all of La La Land and the required 12 or so Boutique Blends , of gasolene needed to conform to spotty local laws is the reason for shortages and high prices. Fuel by Zip code? OUR "energy problem" is purely self inflicted as the usual law of supply and demand etc , that makes a capatilast society function are destroyed by groups that have different agendas. Why do we not drill the Artcic Desert in AK as the residents desire? Cause someone in Mass wants to "save" the carabu that are 700 miles awayfrom the drilling site. Lay out a (ugh) full page of the NY Times (all the news that fits) . The size of one period is the relative size in the Artic desert that would be "touched" by ANWAR drilling We have had the tech to power cars with inerta , (yes a super flywheel )for over a decade . Repowers far faster than electric batts , and no trillion dollar infastructure needed as with Hydrogen which would have to be created. Why does it not exist , TRIAL LAWYERS , would have a ball if the 150,000rpm flywheel broke loose in a crash. Look in the mirror , the Nihlist Democrat politicos that want to be all things to all people , ANYTHING , if you will give them power over others , on "your" behaf. AS currency distruction has been the GOAL of the US gov since the huge borrowing binge of the Depression (we owe it to ourselves), they are playing you for a Sucker when they claim "This is the highest price oil has been." True in fast shrinking (by plan) dollars , but the BIG lie when using constant value dollars. Oil would have to go over $85 a barrel to equal the 70's price. We can either vote to continue as a sucessful capatilist society , or sink to the beggar thy neighbor of the failed socalist experiments.Even Sweden grew up. A trip abroad would be usefull for anyone that thinks there are "poor" folk in this country. FAST FRED | ||
| bobm Rating: N/A |
Just put $367.80 worth of diesel in my 4104 to fill main tank, generator tank and reserve tank. Don't think prices will go down any time soon. This hobby is getting expensive. I could buy a round trip air and three nights hotel in Vegas for what I just paid for fuel. I'm going to look for a mountain cabin site and park the 4104 as my cabin and dream about the good old days of .90 diesel. | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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Geez FF I wanna buy you a Drink. Gary | ||
| LABryan Rating: N/A |
Wow, FF, that was quite a rant. I thought we were talking about the high price of diesel fuel, but thanks for pointing out that all the ills of society, including the high price of fuel, are caused people who insist on thinking differently than you. Are you sure it was the trial lawyers all by themselves who put the kybosh on the flywheel scheme? In my experience they are a pretty wimpy bunch. Maybe they had some help from the Massachusets tree huggers, or the NY Times, or the social security loving "Democrat" politicians. I gotta go to work. At least (for now) my job has not been "outsourced" to India. Bryan | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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I though FF was "Thinking Differently". It's an easy to point a finger of accusation at those that have created wealth, it's harder to recognize the valid contribution and dedication of the capitalists that create the economy and growth in productivity we all enjoy. Also, I reccomend you find a way to outsource-proof your line of work. Gary | ||
| LABryan Rating: N/A |
Oh, I forgot something. Yesterday, as I was sitting in a Starbucks here in LaLaLand sipping a latte, I saw a copy of the NY Times. There was an article in the main section about how the divisiveness of the current political campaigns is spilling over into social discourse and interactions and suggesting that this is not necessarily a good thing. More yellow journalism, or is there something to this? In defense of my manhood and whether I should even be allowed to post here, both of which are no doubt in question in light of the second sentence above, I stopped at Starbucks on my way to my bus to work on a project. I am installing L.E.D. lighting in the bays and interior. I'm very happy with the results so far. My plan is to provide low glare but effective lighting which can be used while driving, while at the same time providing very low power consumption lighting for extended dry camping. Does anyone have experience with those L.E.D. "undercar" lighting kits like they use on tuner cars? I'm thinking of running a set of those tubes under the bus on the passenger side. That should give me cool looking reflected light in the campground with very low power consumption. Bryan | ||
| ChuckMC9 (Chucks)
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LABryan - "...divisiveness of the current political campaigns is spilling over into social discourse and interactions..." I completely agree. Look at how the flames on this board have intensified in the last six months. And I like the undercarriage lighting idea. I want mine blue like some of the umm, well, some of our population uses. I have heard they are illegal in some states though. I watched just enough of that stupid horrible Paris Hilton RV show and saw her ticketed for blue running lights under her rig. | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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Guys, An overall observation of mine is that we humans are lazy beasts, we always look for the "Easy" route. I think the deviciveness of our politics is a product of this. It's easy to "chose a side" and just parrot the pontifications the "Leaders" on the side we've chosen. Taking a critical look at each issue, independently without following the crowd is more difficult. Because of this, I can safely say that there is no Politial group or individual that represents my position. Unfortunately this also puts me in the position of prioritizing my issues holding my nose in respect to the issues I disagree with. I like the Lighting Idea too, I've been thinking of different ways to customize things on the bus, but I'm not sure I want to be known as the guy with the giant Honda Civic. Gary | ||
| LABryan Rating: N/A |
Thanks, Chuck. I like the blue also. I'm using a few blue l.e.d. bars in the interior as they give good but very directional light without much glare on the windshield. Enough so passengers can get to the bathroom or make a sandwich without getting hurt, but I can still see to drive. Blue is probably asking for trouble on the exterior while underway. I plan to use it only while stopped. Well, maybe a quick flash to recognize a trucker who lets me cut in. I bought a set of Street Glow Optix blue l.e.d. undercar lights (2 4 foot tubes and 2 30 inch tubes) for $99 this weekend at a chain called Pep Boys. These normally retail for $200 or more, so a good deal. I guess they are closing them out. Peb Boys has a website and they have tons of 12v l.e.d. lights in their catalog. Bryan | ||
| Arthur J Griffith
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FAST FRED: You are the man. I could not have said it better. If you ever deside to run for public office you have MY VOTE. ARTHUR | ||
| ChuckMC9 (Chucks)
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Gary - "It's easy to "chose a side" and just parrot the pontifications the "Leaders" on the side we've chosen. Taking a critical look at each issue, independently without following the crowd is more difficult. Because of this, I can safely say that there is no Politial group or individual that represents my position. Unfortunately this also puts me in the position of prioritizing my issues holding my nose in respect to the issues I disagree with." Gary, YOU da MAN. I'm with ya, Bub. | ||
| LABryan Rating: N/A |
How did I miss a show that combined Paris Hilton and RV-ing. My Tivo must be on the blink! Bryan | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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Chuck--thanks, I just wish I could get happy about my apparent hopelessness of representative government. Bryan--PH is living proof that with a LOT of money and even more makeup, anybody can get their own show. Gary | ||
| NILES Rating: N/A |
FF - WOW - don't think you missed a darn thing - right on all counts (most independant thinkers are) - As an aside I have run the entire Alyeska Pipeline from Valdez to just this side of Prudhoe (west of the Arctic Refuge) and have been to Eagle (south of Refuge and the Caribou migration path), and there appear to be NO (emphasis added)Impacts on the environment from MY 1ST HAND OBSERVATIONS - After 27 years of operation and billions and billions of crude the only weaknesses discovered were in the use of tankers for distribution post pipeline which is being ameliorated by the change to double bottom hulls - I would rather pay our military to patrol and protect the existing and proposed new oil fields and pipelines in Prudhoe and the Arctic Refuge on our own soil than to perish needlessly in the Mideast - It is also a well discussed rumor (amongst locals) that there is a cache of oil proximate to Hope AK along Cook inlet that is greater than the Prudhoe fields - As for the third world poor countries , I remember my evening discussions with our safari guides (an intelligent group of multilingual individuals who converse regularly with varied nationals , races and indigenous peoples as provided by their jobs) , at which time the question always arose as to what could be done about the poverty and productivity of the Dark Continent - My reply was always first that of all the countries I visited (kenya,Tanzania,Mozambique,Malawi,Zambia,Zimbabwe,Botswana(but not S. Africa)) the primary problem I see is that the Constitions of each country did not provide for , or if provided for in the constitution the people and governments would not defend or protect , PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS AND THE ABLITY TO OWN LAND AND BUILD WEALTH , something which is slowly being taken from us in this country - Sorry for the rant , but this is more important to us than any bus - I'll shut up now - Niles | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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Actually, I'd like to continue this discussion, but not here. Gary | ||
| Norm Edlebeck (Bandleader)
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Just to throw in my 2 cents worth about undercarriage neon lighting. Last year I installed 4 car kits underneath the outside perimeter of my MC-7 coach. I believe they are the "Light Glow" ones - (each kit comes w/2-4 ft & 2-32" tubes with one transformer). I had just enough to go all the way around the bus. BTW - they are Purple. You can go all the way around (1 loop,) with a transformer every 4th tube. They work best when there are 2 - 4ft. & 2 - 32" tubes per transformer, but still 1 loop. They work great - & even sometimes scare people I'm talking with outside at night when I have my remote in my pocket and turn them on & off real fast. They'll usually say -"What was that??", to which I reply - I didn't see anything, what are you talking about? You can have a lot of fun with them along with the attention they draw. I've even had them on traveling at night & haven't been stopped yet. If I do, I'll plead "Insanity", or just say I didn't realize that I hit the remote button by mistake. The local PD here in MN don't know if they're legal or not - heard they arrested a kid with them under his car while driving, but an RV is a whole different ball game - they just don't know if I'm legal or not. They are really COOL looking though. Paid $600 for all 4 kits - yes kinda spendy, but worth the fun you'll have with them. Any questions - email me. | ||
| Norm Edlebeck (Bandleader)
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Sorry, I forgot - I have a new e-mail address. It's: bandleader53@yahoo.com | ||
| Henry R. Bergman, Jr. (Henryofcj)
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Hey...there is no way a repowered '92 or sooss Metro Geo or sossssss could take 3 days to go from zero to sixty. Should not take over TWO!!! And...I will have you know my '81 VW Rabbit Diesel is soosss powerful that when I stomp it.... ..and car stands absolutely still...AND THE EARTH TURNS INSTEAD!! So there! Even being soooss slow, still quicker than my Crown. BARELY! | ||
| Busone Rating: N/A |
After reading over the Tilley Foundation website myself I was sure it must be a scam. Sure enough it is. I attached a weblink to a website with links to a news station in Tenn that did a story on the Tilley guy. He already pulled a similar scam on some people in WY. http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Tilley/fraud/030211_Channel4.htm | ||
| S.M. Heath (Hotspring_44)
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somehow the link screwed-up on my end .( don't worry Ian it'my fault!). S.M.H. | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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ROFL the "Website" has misspellings in it. Oh, man....that was good. Gary | ||
| S.M. Heath (Hotspring_44)
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Geary I was editing my post & messed-up the page id link in post so sorry you probly got the Vagas add LOL!http://www.fortunecity.com/greenfield/bp/16/bedeng.htm BEDINI'S FREE ENERGY GENERATOR from The Encyclopedia of free energy,energy21.org,energy 21 org ,Geoff Egel | ||
| S.M. Heath (Hotspring_44)
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I'm glad that I check on my own postings! Things could get imberising posting the wrong thing or like I did: Cliped the page right out of the posting! Geees! Anyhow that last one worked for me so it should be OK now. S.M.H. | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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the link worked fine for me. Gary | ||
| S.M. Heath (Hotspring_44)
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Gary did it work on the first post? I edited the first post at least 3 times! & still had it "MISSPELLED"! LOL! Anyway I cliped the first link to the point that the computer software wold not allow me to do it the way I know how to so I just tried to drag the bookmark into field of post text & did NOT try to edit it... That DID work. Now about that BEDINI Generator for our BUSES! I could use the Batterys! S.M.H. | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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Yeah, the first link you posted worked for me, The misspellings were on the site itself. just hit my funny bone. Gary |