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Jim and Myrna Lawrence (Daffycanuck)

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Posted on Tuesday, October 19, 2004 - 7:31 pm:   

I use a Haden 12v Radiator Cooling fan as a fan on my interior, down the road, heater.

It blows a lot of air and I'd like to add a low speed circuit to the fan motor.

Can someone tell me what size resister I need to incorporate to add the low speed.

Thanks
TWO DOGS

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Posted on Tuesday, October 19, 2004 - 10:08 pm:   

GO TO A SHOP THAT BUILDS GENERATORS & ALTERNATERS
TWO DOGS

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Posted on Tuesday, October 19, 2004 - 10:10 pm:   

or...better....TAKE it to that shop
John that newguy

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Posted on Tuesday, October 19, 2004 - 10:29 pm:   

In the "for what it's worth" department:
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DC Motor Speed Controller
Vary the speed of DC motors the very best way with this kit. Gear
boxes can be costly and series resistors may cause stalling. This
circuit delivers the voltage to the motor with pulses and the speed
is controlled via pulse width modulation (PWM). The speed control is
a potentiometer, for DC motors up to 100 Volts at a maximum of five
amps. #80-670 DC Motor Speed Controller kit

http://www.philmore-datak.com/Page209.htm
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I think I'd just run over to the local RV supply shop and buy
a dc control (rheostat) that's on the higher priced exhaust fans.
(radio shack's got "stuff" too!)
Jim and Myrna Lawrence (Daffycanuck)

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Posted on Tuesday, October 19, 2004 - 11:14 pm:   

Thanks.....John the NewGuy has given me the answer.....one I should have seen as I have two of those fans.....
John tng

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Posted on Tuesday, October 19, 2004 - 11:19 pm:   

If you're going to use a rheostat on an automotive radiator type fan,
be careful! Depending on the draw of that motor, a rheostat can get
damned hot. The resistor is taking the power instead of the fan..
It can get HOT enough to cause combustion.
BrianMCI

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Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 12:42 am:   

You will just need to size the rheostat to handle the load...

There used to be aftermarket replacement heater blower motor rheostats with a ceramic base...

That might work if they still make them.

Something to think about...GM used a group of resistors for their blower motors in the 90's and stuck them into the blower's air stream...

Mounting the rheostat attached to a heatsink is another thought.

Brian
Sojourner

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Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 1:32 pm:   

You can use DC Motor Speed Controller but limit to 5 amps.

Or you can use several diodes in series.

Each silicon diode is .7 (point 7) volts drop.

Example 6 diode = 4.2 volts drop.

Whatever current (amp) draw of motor w/fan at full voltage will be half current at half voltage.

Radio Shack;
http://www.radioshack.com/search.asp?find=diode&hp=search&SRC=1

??pc..3 amps @ 50 v # 276-1661

1pc…30 surge-amps @ 400 v 1N4004 # 276-1103

1pc…1000mfd @ 24 or higher volts capacitor

http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=205&item=P600M&type=store

2 = 6amp @ 1000volts for $1 at walk-in (Van Nuys, CA) or plus shipping $6.

About Diode; http://www.kilowattclassroom.com/Archive/DiodeRec.pdf

You can parallel diode to double ampere rating.

Such as 2 x 3 amp diodes = 6 amps in parallel.

And a 1N4004 diode snubs out potential spikes from the motor, and the 1000uF capacitor across the motor eliminates motor brush noise from the DC wiring.

Caution. Diode will short out if over rated voltage feed back such as spikes.

So purchase diodes at least or higher ampere & double the voltage rating for your need.

Here a schematic of Two speed dc fan in jpg format

Hope download work? My first time.

For what it's worth.

Sojourn for Christ, Jerry
Sojourner

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Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 1:56 pm:   

Resize drawing of Two Speed DC Fan Two Speed DC Fan
Sorry for repeat.

Sojourn for Christ, Jerry
Sojourner

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Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 1:59 pm:   

Resize drawing of Two Speed DC Fan Two Speed DC Fan
Sorry for repeat.

Sojourn for Christ, Jerry
James Stacy (Jimstacy)

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Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 8:50 pm:   

When you said you have two fans it wasn't clear if you were running both of them, if so just run them in series for low speed, parallel for high speed. GM does this for the defroster blowers. No heat, no wasted electricity.
You will need a double pole, double throw, center off switch. FWIW

Jim Stacy
Stephen Fessenden (Sffess)

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Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2004 - 10:34 pm:   

If you decide to use dropping resistors put them in the air stream for better cooling.

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